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Farmer and boggart tale[edit]

this 'farmer & the boggart' tale which has completely replaced all the other text on the page is spurious - it is fine to have it included *as part of* the wider definition, but completely wrong for it to be the only text on the page. Star-one (talk) 14:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


Good article. Third paragraph has "impliment" which should be changed to "implement."



I would take issue with the use of the term "boggart" meaning to take more than one's fair share. All the dictionaries I see list the verb as "bogart", single 'g', and relate it to the actor Humphrey Bogart. (e.g. "don't bogart that joint", meaning to let it hang from one's lower lip without actually smoking it, a la Humphrey Bogart.)

Please cite your etymology relating the Irish spirit to the above-referenced verb. ~Cavalaxis



Is it possible that the "tale from lincolnshire" actually comes from Jonothan Strange & Mr Norrel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.74.170 (talk) 16:24, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

The "old" tale concerning potatoes is unlikely to be more ancient than the C19: I guess that's "really really old"...--Wetman (talk) 04:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

i removed some pointless, noobish vandalism following the farmer and boggart tale 71.128.150.231 (talk) 06:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC) en.wikipedia.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.9.247 (talk) 10:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

One -g- spelling is a different word[edit]

I can find no evidence anywhere that the word bogart, with one -g- is ever an instance of boggart with a different spelling. The only assertions of that claim are those at the top of this article, and near the end of the linked page bogart (disambiguation). All the examples on this page of the magical or "faerie" creature of myth or fantasy use the spelling -gg-; and the OED only lists boggard, boggart and then adds "also buggard". Wiktionary for bogart only lists the meanings associated with Humphrey Bogart, to do with smoking. The Wiktionary for boggart does not say it can also be spelled with one -g-. Now, the Wiktionary articles could be as unsafe as the Wikipedia ones; however they seem (at the time I just looked) to agree with external evidence, namely that here are two different words, one entirely modern spelled like and originating with the surname of the actor Humphrey of that ilk, and the centuries-old word for the magical creature, with -gg-, as documented in OED 1st edition. Iph (talk) 10:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

The name Bogart is of Dutch origin (from bogaard, more fully, boomgaard), and means "orchard". It has nothing to do with the English word boggart. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 23:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

"Booger"[edit]

A variant of boggart not mentioned in the article is booger, which is known from Appalachian folklore (see Chase, The Grandfather Tales) and African-American folklore (sometimes as "boogie"). Both traditions probably get the term, if not the concept, from Scotch-Irish English. In vernacular American English, booger and boogie have come to mean thing (often unpleasant or unmentionable), and so, by extension, a gob of snot and (as "woolly booger") the pudendum muliebris, whence "boogie-woogie" music. Somebody with the time to look up authorities should add a section on this to the article. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 23:03, 9 January 2018 (UTC)