Talk:Borg (Star Trek)

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Please note that in the PC game spore the villains are like the borg and look like them. I m not sure if someone should add this or not.

Main image[edit]

Just happened across this article and was surprised by the main image, totally unfamiliar to me. Now I admit I haven't seen every episode of Voyager, so I've probably missed something, but is the logo actually used anywhere within the series? If not, surely a more iconic image of an actual Borg drone would be better there? WormTT · (talk) 14:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

My goodness, it's there in TNG episodes... Still not sure it really is the best main image though, but starting to think it's just personal preference. WormTT · (talk) 14:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Its a shame you found it i was about to have fun pulling out my star trek encyclopedias and DVD's to find you examples before i read your second comment. But yes..they are all there. Bailo26 00:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Use of the definite article[edit]

I corrected the Wikipedia page but was overruled and my statement was removed.

Fine - that's up to you - leave the page with incorrect statements if you wish; it is your page, after all, so I won't waste any more time trying to correct you.

I corrected the Wikipedia page by pointing out that the definite article (which, for the benefit of the apparently less than literate editor, is a term meaning the word 'the') was quite specifically NOT used in the original film statements and that this was important.

The Wikipedia page states that the phrase "We are the Borg" is used. The term was never used. The phrase was "We are Borg". It was never, "We are the borg".

I joined Wikipedia to correct this error, but it appears to have been a waste of time.

The response to me suggested this page was more appropriate for my comment, so here it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Stedman (talkcontribs) 13:17, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia thus retains the reputation of not being trustworthy or reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher Stedman (talkcontribs) 13:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You are mistaken, the phrase does include the definite article every time I've heard it (which includes First Contact and Voyager). For example, a quick youtube search gave me this (start listening at 3:29): (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
The argument posed that "We are the Borg" being unused in the series Star Trek: TNG is valid.

The phrase is first used within the televised series or movies in the movie "First Contact". The quotation given as credited to Star Trek: TNG - "We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile." - does not occur in the series or the movie "First Contact," though similar words are used. In TNG's "I, Borg", the quote is "We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." Note that the indefinite article is not used. The first noted use of "We are the Borg" occurs in the film "First Contact". In "First Contact" the quote is "We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile." In Voyager's episode "Scorpion, Part II", the phrase is given as "We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is...". (I can not attest to any quotes in Part I). Still, the quoted phrase may occur somewhere in the Star Trek: Voyager series, as the Borg (excluding Seven-of-nine) appear in an additional twelve episodes for that series. The quote may also occur in one of the many Star Trek novels, but it does not occur in the televised TNG series.Stuart M Klimek (talk) 13:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

The books: STAR TREK DESTINY[edit]

Should this be included.

Resistance is Futile[edit]

Many fans of Star Trek recognize the phrase "Resistance is futile," yet the phrase - though popularized by the introduction of the Borg - did not originate in Star Trek. I can not claim where it was first uttered in books or media, but it does exist before the inception of Star Trek: The Next Generation. The phrase is uttered by the arch-nemesis, the Master, to the fourth generation of Doctor Who in the third serial of the fourteenth season (November 1976, "The Deadly Assassin", written by Robert Holmes). It may not be the first occurrence of the quotation, but it might serve to be noted that it did not originate with the writers of Star Trek TNG series.Stuart M Klimek (talk) 11:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)