Talk:Boron nitrate

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Seems to be just nonsense. The "source" is worthless. I think somebody has mistaken "boron nitride" by "boron nitrate". --FK1954 (talk) 11:20, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Two links at the bottom of the page link to materials about boron nitride, not boron nitrate.

95.49.56.52 (talk) 13:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree and removed the two sources (and the statements that they support), since they are clearly about boron nitride not the nitrate. DMacks (talk) 16:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
The CAS# and ChemSpiderID do support this compound. I can't find a ref for its preparation though. Even if factually correct, is this compound actually notable enough to merit an article? The previously-deleted refs would support notability of their topic, but that's not this. DMacks (talk) 16:33, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Here is a reference that says it does not exist: http://www.geothermal-energy.org/pdf/IGAstandard/WGC/2005/0207.pdf but of course there could be a later one that says it does. But this reference from 1971 says it exists below -78°C. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00854900 There are tetranitratoborate compounds around: M+ B(NO)4-. M=Cs Rb and tetrametylammonium.[1] Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
If you have access to http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00853930 then reference 18 will have more on boron nitrate, suggesting it exists. I cannot see what that is though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Reference #18 is
K. V. Titova and V. Ya. Rosolovskii, Izv. Akad. Nauk SSSR, Ser. Khim., 2670 (1970).
That journal, Izv. Akad. Nauk SSSR, Ser. Khim., is the Russian journal that is translated to the English Bulletin of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR. Division of chemical sciences, which later became Russian chemical bulletin. The ref resolves to [2], which is the same 1971 article you mentioned already. I don't have access to that actual article. DMacks (talk) 09:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Ahhh —— you can read that at http://booksc.org/dl/12158935/8eb29f the references are talking about failed attempts to make it:
  • M. Schmeisser, Angew. Chemie, 67, 493 (1955)
  • M. Schmeisser and K. Brandle, Angew. Chemie, 73, 388 (1961).
ps based on these references I have written the Tetranitratoborate page. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I recommend that we convert this article into a redirect to tetranitratoborate. There is almost no literature on this compound, based on my CAS search of the registry number and the term "boron nitrate". DMacks is probably correct that most references to this stuff are mistaken, intending to refer to the nitride. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:21, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I am happy with that. I suppose I should then include a statement that boron nitrate, the parent molecule, has never been made. But I also agree that most uses are a mistake for boron nitride. So a hat note should cover this. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:45, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Support redirect if there's a mention of the nitrate in this new article. A hatnote such as:
DMacks (talk) 16:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
does sound like a good idea. DMacks (talk) 16:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Redirect and hatnote done. Dirac66 (talk) 18:33, 8 April 2014 (UTC)