Talk:Bouncer (cricket)

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Perfume ball[edit]

Have never heard the expression perfume ball before to describe a bouncer. Looked it up on Google and it self referenced back to this article. To say it is colloquial seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.

Kellster71 23:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Also never heard the term, in 40 years following the game. Brettreasure (talk) 15:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

History of the Bouncer[edit]

Since 2012 this page has stated that "During the 1970s to 1980s, bouncers were used as part of a team's intimidatory tactics, especially by the West Indies team."

It is true that, in the 1970s and 80s, the West Indies elevated the practice of bowling bouncers, as a part of a relentless all-out fast bowling attack, to the position of dominance in the world game, and this was controversial, not only to those who wanted the game to emphasise different aspects and different exponents, but also because it was, rightly or wrongly, linked to slow play, which was also called (in print) "cheating" by some.

As the 2010 Stevan Riley documentary "Fire in Babylon" records, bouncers were used against the West Indies by Australia in the 1970s, when they had the bowlers, notably Lillee and Thompson, to do so, and the resulting humilation of his team was Clive Lloyd's stimulus for the West Indies to adopt ruthless tactics in response. This is partly reported in History_of_the_West_Indian_cricket_team

Of course bouncers have always been part of the armoury of the any captain who had the bowlers to exploit them. The article now mentions by name Bodyline (but not Larwood or Voce), and Lindwall, Tyson, Malcolm and deVilliers (who?) only in the context of fast bowlers breaking their own convention, plus Griffiths, Ntini, Lee, Akhtar and Abbot (inevitably), but taken as a whole this is a rather an odd list and reflects, I think, that this is rather an incomplete document of the subject of bouncers.

Overall I feel that the page (and its Talk page) is surprisingly moribund considering what a controversial (and sometimes life-changing) subject bouncers have been! Why did Cricket WikiProject class this subject as low importance?

Is anyone out there? Shouldn't this page be a more complete tour of the history of bouncers, their bowlers, and its controversies and competing viewpoints? Surely this should be a high importance category? I'm willing to start by offering more context to the West Indies decision to use, develop and perfect the bouncer weapon as part on an all-pace attack, but then I'm sure there's plenty of expertise on this around.

Atconsul (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)