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This article does not meet Wikipedia Quality Standards and is just favoured and biased as an attempt to promote the fame of this caste
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Some obvious things
This article should address some of the basic things that articles like Sikh cover. Like how do observant Brahmins look? What do they dress like? I've heard for example that male Brahmins grow out their hair long like Sikhs and wear some kind of thread on their body. What does the typical female Brahmin look like? Somebody who knows these things should add them so that the philosophical stuff that has been covered to an undue extent can then be cleaned up. --184.108.40.206 (talk) 10:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Provided that we do not stereotype, of course. My suspicion is that, aside from basics such as the sacred thread, there may well be little commonality. - Sitush (talk) 05:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- The thread (janeyu) is not specific to Brahmins and a lot of other castes also wear it. A long time ago before Muslim invasion, Brahmins were simply people who pursued education, ran universities and maintained libraries. They may or may not have been philosophers - which was dominated by sadhus ans ascetics. In such times Brahmins have been described as people who were bald with single braid/choti, wearing minimalistic (looking kind of like Gandhi). No such stereotype exists now, though some orthodox Brahmins may frown upon rest of them for not following the tradition.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 10:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Bhumihar claims of Brahmin status
Please do not insert content relating to the Bhumihar in this article. They are not Brahmins, except in their own heads. This has been discussed time and again across countless Wikipedia articles, including at Talk:Bhumihar itself. Repeated reinstatement of inaccurate material and defiance of our attitude towards consensus on Wikipedia constitutes disruptive editing. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 05:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
It’s very much clear from the editing that the person (i.e., Naved2015) -
(1) either does not have any idea about the subject. Nor does he seem to put any efforts to acquire information about the subject from any authentic reference source, or
(2) has tried to distort the concerned pages just out of his/ her prejudices or disgruntlement against the subject, or
(3) has made an attempt knowingly or unknowingly to warp the image of the subject community at the behest of someone else.
Since there is no credible indication of importance I, therefore, would undo the editing done by Naved2015.
I intend to include a section about Hussaini Brahmins. Before I start my work, I ask for help and would reconsider my intention if reservations from either side are placed on this talk page. Thanks. Nannadeem (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Nannadeem, I respect your perspective about the possibility of a section for "Hussaini Brahmins"- however, I'm not sure it would be consistent with the conventional understanding of the term "Brahmin" whenever that term is used. As you might have seen from the article itself, there is a TREMENDOUS amount of work before us just consolidating the identity and history of this term in the context of the Vedas and Hinduism, without our expanding its definition beyond that. Just my two cents, but you can hit me at my talk page if you like. Svabhiman (talk) 10:31, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I suggest rephrasing the line "liaison with the God". to "liaison with Brahman [God]. Brahman is mentioned earlier but for clarity, my change is clearer grammar. There is a possibility "liaison with the God" could have been a typo regarding "liaison with their God" which sounds non-secular, and inherently, would not have been the intention of the author to write anyway, I feel. So; that original phrase I've indicated seems to be an editing oversight. --Sudaama90 (talk) 11:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Sudaama, I agree with you to an extent. Specifically, the need for rephrasing. There is a tendency in many Hinduism articles to replace etymology with understanding from the perspective of practitioners. I would certainly support a separate section dedicated to, as an example, "Traditional explanation for the meaning of 'brahman'", preceeded by an etymology established by scholars in linguistics. Svabhiman (talk) 10:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Brahmans or Brahmins were / are those in pursuit of 'Brahma-gyan' or the knowledge of Brahma - the creator. In effect it encompasses all who were /are in pursuit of the knowledge derived from the studies of science. The work of Brahmins today are Researchers, Scientists, Engineers, Doctors, Teachers,. Brahmins are the intellectuals and those whose primary tool is the mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floyd Chaterji (talk • contribs) 20:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Scriptural references to the term "Brahmin"
Hello, I intend to add a new section near the start of the article that lists, in a systematic way, as many references to the term "Brahmin" as I'm able to. I will try and add subsections ennumerating, with full references, as many as I might find. This is woefully absent in the article as it presently stands. Svabhiman (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)