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I intend to include a section about Hussaini Brahmins. Before I start my work, I ask for help and would reconsider my intention if reservations from either side are placed on this talk page. Thanks. Nannadeem (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Nannadeem, I respect your perspective about the possibility of a section for "Hussaini Brahmins"- however, I'm not sure it would be consistent with the conventional understanding of the term "Brahmin" whenever that term is used. As you might have seen from the article itself, there is a TREMENDOUS amount of work before us just consolidating the identity and history of this term in the context of the Vedas and Hinduism, without our expanding its definition beyond that. Just my two cents, but you can hit me at my talk page if you like. Svabhiman (talk) 10:31, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I suggest rephrasing the line "liaison with the God". to "liaison with Brahman [God]. Brahman is mentioned earlier but for clarity, my change is clearer grammar. There is a possibility "liaison with the God" could have been a typo regarding "liaison with their God" which sounds non-secular, and inherently, would not have been the intention of the author to write anyway, I feel. So; that original phrase I've indicated seems to be an editing oversight. --Sudaama90 (talk) 11:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Sudaama, I agree with you to an extent. Specifically, the need for rephrasing. There is a tendency in many Hinduism articles to replace etymology with understanding from the perspective of practitioners. I would certainly support a separate section dedicated to, as an example, "Traditional explanation for the meaning of 'brahman'", preceeded by an etymology established by scholars in linguistics. Svabhiman (talk) 10:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Brahmans or Brahmins were / are those in pursuit of 'Brahma-gyan' or the knowledge of Brahma - the creator. In effect it encompasses all who were /are in pursuit of the knowledge derived from the studies of science. The work of Brahmins today are Researchers, Scientists, Engineers, Doctors, Teachers,. Brahmins are the intellectuals and those whose primary tool is the mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floyd Chaterji (talk • contribs) 20:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I intend to add a new section near the start of the article that lists, in a systematic way, as many references to the term "Brahmin" as I'm able to. I will try and add subsections ennumerating, with full references, as many as I might find. This is woefully absent in the article as it presently stands. Svabhiman (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Svabhiman: That would be great, but be careful with the Brahman, Brahma and Brahmin difference in various texts. I deleted two WP:PRIMARY quotes from Rigveda where the difference Brahman and Brahmin was incorrectly interpreted with OR, without secondary WP:RS, as same. John Lochtefeld's encyclopedia on Hinduism, David Lorenzen's Who Invented Hinduism (pages 174-175), and Patrick Olivelle's Ascetics and Brahmins are good starting points on the difference. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 11:13, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
We say The Manusmriti recommends that a Brahmin's occupation must never involve forbidden activities, and lists six occupations as proper for a Brahmin:. This doesn't read very well: does it forbid all but the six? Is it really just a recommendation and, if so, how can they possibly be forbidden - one word is advisory, the other proscriptive. - Sitush (talk) 11:32, 20 December 2015 (UTC)