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non-RS and wrong translation[edit]

@Mamta Jagdish Dhody: Please do not edit war, per WP:BRD policy. Please explain this edit and why you consider source reliable? Further, where do the sources you added support the quote "degraded", "secular", etc (or which Sanskrit word)? Most of the verses of Manusmriti relate to Brahmins, well over a 1000 of them. Why is this particular verse WP:Due in an overview wikipedia article on Brahmin? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 20:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Varna and jati[edit]

Brahmin is a varna, not caste , then what is jati ? Brahmin is not a jati , it is varna so what is the jati of Brahmin ? Pandit4580 (talk) 14:58, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

This page is for discussion of improvements to the article, not general queries about the subject matter. I suggest you take this to WP:REFDESK. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Caste = jati , not varna , Tell me jati of Brahmin varna Pandit4580 (talk) 15:04, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You are misguiding with different concept of articles , hence better remove Brahmin as a caste , because it is varna . Pandit4580 (talk) 15:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

It is common to call both jati and varna for caste. If anything is is most commonly used for varna, at least outside of India.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


@Blazearon21: Please review WP:RS, and Hindupedia does not qualify. Please do not edit war with different editors, try to discuss and gain consensus before re-adding the same WP:UNDUE content into this article. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 03:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ms Sarah Welch:Why has no one tried to add the genuine criticism of this community in this article both from historical and modern sources and those that are added are removed immediately like the humiliation of the maratha emperor shivaji 3-4 hundred years recorded by historians and what about the treatment meeted out to eklavya and karna by these same clergy of India.Why is the criticism of India's clergy wrong by the editors and contributors of this article.The clergy of every civilization has committed horrible crimes why hide the historical crimes and atrocities committed against the people of India.

Blazearon21 (talk) 12:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blazearon21: Wikipedia project as a collaborative community is about creating quality encyclopedic articles. It is not to mirror unreliable sources to bash up a "this community", "this race", "this religion" "this gender", "this nation", "this living person" or "this whatever". Please see WP:SOAP on WP:WWIN guideline page, as suggested to you already. Critical view or historical commentary is acceptable, but only if comes from reliable sources, which in this article generally means non-fringe and peer reviewed scholarship. We cannot rely on blogs nor newspaper opinion pieces, nor do original research in this article, such as you have been edit warring over. Undue, insignificant, your personal wisdom / prejudice / opinion about alleged "horrible crimes in Indian fiction / mythologies" is irrelevant in this article, as is a website or some other non-WP:RS you read somewhere. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:00, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Take also note pf WP:TRUTH. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:37, 25 October 2016 (UTC)