Talk:Bridget Cleary

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Created this page 3/22/2007. I submit that the case is notable because it was quite a famous trial in its day, and it has spawned a fair amount of popular interest as well as some serious scholarly research. It will take me some time to have the information properly distilled and written out though.DCB4W 02:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have a rough draft done, so I can leave it for a bit without feeling I defaced the article space. One nitpick I have, for which I would be grateful for advice: I said Cleary was murdered, when in fact her husband was convicted of manslaughter only. However, there is no verb form of "manslaughter", so I'm leaving a deliberate technical error until I think of a better way to word it.DCB4W 04:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi. In the course of a WikiGnome job, I changed "murdered" to "killed," which is the generic way to say it without using criminal law terminology. (My opinion is that it was murder in the first, but that's beside the point.) Also, I suggest expanding the text as to political ramifications, including the significance of Oscar Wilde's concurrent legal wranglings. (I would do this myself, but I think your draft is a good start, and I'm in a lazy mode. :) ) Z Wylld 19:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello everyone.... In followup to the comments above, I see that someone changed "killed" back to "murdered." I don't want to get into a revision/rerevision/rererevision thing, so I will just put my further comment here first. As I said before, my (personal) opinion is that this was murder in the first degree. But Michael was actually convicted of manslaughter, not murder (in whatever degree). I don't know what the exact definitions of these crimes were in 1890s Ireland, but they definitely are not (and were not) interchangeable in a legal sense. So I think it's best to say Bridget was "killed" by Michael, because this is the generic verb, and accurate as well, regardless of the specific criminal conviction. ...comments?? Z Wylld 19:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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wilful [sic][edit]

Wilful with a single L is the ordinary spelling in most English-speaking countries (though not in the US). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.0.49.30 (talk) 11:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)