Talk:Brotherhood of St. Mark

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Is this article misnamed? "Marx brothers" appears to be a bastardized half-translation of the German "Marxbruder." Most English-language sources (that are not Wikipedia clones), including those cited in the article, refer to this group as "The Brotherhood of St. Mark."

you are right, it may be better to move the page. dab () 07:36, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
However, "Marx brothers" seems like a fair enough translation of "Marxbrüder", if you choose not to translate "Marx", which as a spelling for "Mark's" is just as uncommon in German as in English. dab () 15:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

There used to be an captain of st. mark in the Venice military does that have an connection ?

Are the Marxbruder still in existence? If not, is there any record of when the Brotherhood disbanded?

no; they somehow faded out in the early 17th century. dab (𒁳) 07:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
St. Marcus was/is the cities-saint of Venice.-- (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

about the Lux/Lucas-Brothers[edit]

This is my transcript, taken from: Wassmannsdorff, Karl: Sechs Fechtschulen: (d.i. Schau- und Preisfechten) der Marxbrüder und Federfechter aus den Jahren 1573-1614 […]. Heidelberg 1870.

nach 1576 [über die Lucasbrüder] [S.8/ Fascikel 27 der Aktenstücke über die Marxbrüder im Archiv der Stadt Frankfurt a. M.] Ein Lucas Bruder ist ein M[eiste]r. aus denen Marc[us] oder Veyths fechtern, so sich vndernimet gegen alle vnd jede die Schuhl zu behaupten; würdt Er aber bluthrüstig gemachet, so ist Er ab, vnd die übrige theylen das von denen Zuschauwern erlöszete geldt. [...]

My translation:

after 1576 [page 8/ fascicle 27 from the Acta about the Marxbrüder at the archive of the city of Frankfurt am Main] A Lucas bruder[brother] is a M[aste]r. coming form the Marc[us] or the Vitus-fencers[/fighters], who dares[/has taken upon himself] to prevail against everybody and any [existing/teaching] School; in case He is brought to bleed [or: is beeing severely injured during a fight], so He is off, and the others[/remaining parties/schools] shall divide the wagered money [the wage/ le gage de bataille/ die Wette] which has been collected from the spectators, among them. [...]

I hope my `Jerry´-english is not too bad ;)-- (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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