Talk:Bump n' Grind (R. Kelly song)

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:53, 8 November 2014 (UTC)


Bump n' Grind (R. Kelly song)Bump n' Grind (song) – Only song with an article called simply "Bump n' Grind". We do have an article called Bump 'n' Grind (I Am Feeling Hot Tonight), but I am questioning the notability of it, and I believe that this song is by far the most likely search term - especially given that Bump & Grind 2014 is scaling the charts. Launchballer 15:30, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose - sorry but there are too many other Bump and Grind songs not to indicate the artist per WP:NCM, the fact that a bootleg/remix of this has been issued is only WP:RECENT. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Strong Support to just Bump n' Grind - Overwhelmingly clear primary topic as indicated by page views of the other subjects with the same name (including ones with different spelling of and). This was the stable state of the article until it was moved just a few days ago. This move was reverted but then a user, despite the move clearly being controversial at this point, improperly made the move again rather than open an rm. I fully expect that therefore should there be no consensus here the article will be returned to this status quo. Even if it is not, however, the difference between "n" and "and" is stark enough that no one looking for a topic with the term "and" in it would for some reason decide to type "n'".--Yaksar (let's chat) 01:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Strong support per Yaksar. -- Calidum 02:51, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There are several issues here, firstly the "music associated with striptease" is often referred to as "bump n' grind" (or variants thereof). Secondly the artwork shows a capital "N" rather than the lower case n used in the present and proposed article name space, thirdly, three redirects have been created to help people find this page, namely, Bump N' Grind, Bump & Grind, and Bump and grind (song), which was created last year by the nominator. Quite frankly if the song is that hard to find it makes sense to add the artist in the article namespace and it will be able to stay where it is forever - unless it gets deleted. --Richhoncho (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a "current hits" pop chart. The popularity of music is volatile and fleeting. There are at least four other "Bump and Grind" songs discussed on Wikipedia (and probably more if someone would bother to go looking for them), not to mention the generic concept of striptease songs. Including the artist's name in the title is also helpful to the reader. We should follow WP:SONGDAB and include the artist's name in the title. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
    • Also, since it seems necessary to say it, the difference between "Bump n' Grind" and "Bump and Grind" is extremely minor and unlikely to be followed consistently either by reliable sources or by people looking for articles – especially since songs are primarily heard rather than read. I'm half surprised no one has pointed out the huge typographical distinction between this song being named "Bump n' Grind" and the other song being named "Bump 'n' Grind". —BarrelProof (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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