Talk:Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

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Report on ATF rogue tactics[edit]

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Controversies section is undue - not balanced[edit]

I was working on a related article that brought me here. I made some edits yesterday, mostly standardizing format and so on, but some to the "Controversies" section. I made it a little way, but realized the project is more than I can take on at this time by myself. In a nutshell, it uses mostly primary sources - transcripts from hearings - and reports on alleged problems. The section needs less of this and more reference to secondary sources that evaluate those allegations, what was behind them, summaries of what the hearings found. Summaries perhaps by the committees themselves, but also by reporters independent of the events.

I'll be hanging around this article a bit more today, tweaking as I'm able, and I'll check back here from time to time to add info and check for feedback. Lightbreather (talk) 20:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

ATF or BATFE?[edit]

Which abbreviation is more correct for use in Wikipedia articles, "ATF" or "BATFE"? They both seem to be in common usage. The official website says "ATF".[1] Rezin (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Most sources use BATFE. The BATFE itself prefers ATF, presumably because it looks comparable to FBI and DEA on raid jackets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.185.130 (talk) 10:54, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Any evidence for that claim? I see ATF as frequently as BATFE.
Also, why did you say that this source is so unreliable it should be deleted from the article?[2]
Moore, Jim (2001) [1997]. Very Special Agents: The Inside Story of America's Most Controversial Law Enforcement Agency--the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (reprint, illustrated ed.). University of Illinois Press. p. 384. ISBN 978-0-252-07025-9. OCLC 123148330. Retrieved 2009-05-01. 
Without knowing more, I'd guess that a book published by a university press would be a good source. On that basis, I'm going to put it back until there's a good explanation for its removal. Rezin (talk) 20:50, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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