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Butte or Silver Bow?[edit]

Talk moved from: User:Maveric149/Images - Cities

The Butte, Montana page here has problems as the census data for Butte and Silver Bow County, Montana are mixed in some strange way because the County and City share one government called Butte-Silver Bow. They look like Butte to me, I've driven through there many times on the way to Helena, Montana. The "M" on the mountain in the right one is for Montana Tech, which is in Butte. -- RTC 01:45 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the info! Should these photos go on Silver Bow County, Montana then? --mav
Copying part of the material I put on User talk:Ram-Man:
"Well, I think I may have it, but I am only about 90% sure as there are things that still don't make sense.
Confusing, isn't it? I think they belong in a Butte, Montana article, but that will be difficult to write until the above 4 articles (and maybe others) are untangled. -- RTC 21:00 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes! I have it now. The area data that didn't make sense before now does. Apparently when the Butte City government merged with the Silver Bow County government to form the single entity of Butte-Silver Bow, it appears that Butte annexed ALL of the unincorporated land remaining in the county. So for all practical purposes (except for a few small towns that were already incorporated) the city of Butte now fills Silver Bow County. Somewhat like San Francisco, California completely fills San Francisco County, California, but without containing other separately incorporated towns in the county. -- RTC 17:08, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Suggest moving the Copper Kings section to separate article[edit]

I'm not prepared to update the text fully, but I feel the need to copy & paste the section on the three men to a separate article, as they are historically important figures. I've decided to do this, but suspect I may be violating copy/paste rules, even though it's from one Wikipedia page to another. I'll add new content to both as well. Tell me what you think. Astro jpc 23:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


Butte Rats link[edit]

The link to the forum is not an official community link. It's just an online forum, that by Wikipedia standard guidelines really doesn't belong on in this article. Not to mention that there is a link to The Montana Standard allready. I would recomend placing it in Wiki Travel instead. Rsm99833


Largest Superfund Site[edit]

Can the reference to the largest superfund site be verified, deleted or qualified. Tar Creek in Oklahoma also claims itself as the largest superfund site, encompassing 50 sq miles. The closest I've found is :http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2002/March/02_enrd_180.htm which indicates it is the superfund site with the largest body of contaminated water in the United States. Bangfrog 21:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Check the EPA records on this being the largest Superfund site. It is THE megasite, being so large that it was split into three smaller sites, each a megasite in itself: (1) Butte (including the Butte hill, Berkeley Pit, Silver-Bow Creek, and several smaller associated Operable Units); (2) Anaconda (including smelter hill, Old Works smelter, community soils, and several smaller associated Operable Units); and (3) Milltown (including the dam, towns of Milltown and Bonner, and Clark Fork River). The total length of this upper Clark Fork River basin megasite is about 120 miles, and the Superfund corridor along this length ranges from a few to over 20 miles wide. See map [1]. EcoRover 19:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I eliminated numerous redundancies in this section and changed the corporate name from Arco to the preferred ARCO. It had stated that "agency personnel" were concerned about the problems on the site in the '70s so I changed that to "environmental agency personnel," in lieu of doing detailed research to identify which specific agency or agencies might have been involved. The EPA was created in December 1970, consolidating the functions of other agencies. Thanks to Bangfrog and EcoRover for the question and detailed answer regarding the size of the site. Activist (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Butte Labor History[edit]

Any accounting of Butte's history is very incomplete without an account of the poor working conditions in it's mines, the Granite Mountain Mine disaster, and the labor activism and Anaconda company violence that followed - particularly the IWW organizing, and the Frank Little assasination and aftermath. This absence is so glaring that the POV of the article is called into question. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.115.9.254 (talk) 20:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

I agree, and filled a similar lack regarding Superfund. Someone familiar with labor history needs to fill this gap! EcoRover 19:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


I'd be happy to fulfill that goal, and i have the resources and knowledge to do so.
However, the idea of including labor history in the Butte article appears to be controversial, at least with one editor:
[2]
Consider, the Western Federation of Miners (WFM) was founded in Butte. It is, historically, a very significant organization, not only to Butte, but also to the history of the U.S. and Canada. But this edit deleted all references to the WFM in this article.
Here's what the carefully referenced text had said before that deletion:


Labor organizations

Butte was also known as "the Gibraltar of Unionism", with a very active labor union movement that sought to counter the power and influence of the Anaconda company, which was also simply known as "The Company."

By 1885, there were about 1,800 dues-paying members of a general union in Butte. That year the union reorganized as the Butte Miners' Union (BMU), spinning off all non-miners to separate craft unions. Some of these joined the Knights of Labor, and by 1886 the separate organizations came together to form the Silver Bow Trades and Labor Assembly, with 34 separate unions representing nearly all of the 6,000 workers around Butte.[1] The BMU established branch unions in mining towns like Barker, Castle, Champion, Granite, and Neihart, and extended support to other mining camps hundreds of miles away.

In 1892 there was a violent strike in Coeur d'Alene.[2] Although the BMU was experiencing relatively friendly relations with local management, the events in Idaho were disturbing. The BMU not only sent thousands of dollars to support the Idaho miners, they mortgaged their buildings to send more.[3]

There was a growing concern that local unions were vulnerable to the power of Mine Owners' Associations like the one in Coeur d'Alene. In May, 1893, about forty delegates from northern hard rock mining camps met in Butte, and established the Western Federation of Miners (WFM), which sought to organize miners throughout the West.[4] The Butte Miners' Union became Local Number One of the new WFM.[5] The WFM won a strike in Cripple Creek, Colorado the following year, but then in 1896-97 lost another violent strike in Leadville, Colorado, prompting the Montana State Trades and Labor Council to issue a proclamation to organize a new Western labor federation[6] along industrial lines.

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The edit summary declared, (Revert this is about BUTTE, MONTANA not an advertisment for Communism)
This reflects some confusion about the history, the WFM wasn't communist (the Communist Party didn't exist as a viable entity anywhere in North America during the lifetime of the Western Federation of Miners). Indeed, historians have written many books about how the philosophy and politics of the WFM grew out of the miners' western heritage, and their experiences in the mines. But it isn't confusion that prompted this edit; it appears, rather, to be an antagonism toward the actual history of Butte.
There likewise wasn't discussion about deleting this material on the talk page, nor any suggestion about off-loading the labor history section to another article and linking to it, or any other possible compromise...
But no matter; if this sort of information isn't welcome in the Butte article, i'll edit elsewhere. Richard Myers (talk) 00:52, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Michael P. Malone, William L. Lang, The Battle for Butte, 2006, pages 76-77.
  2. ^ Roughneck: The Life and Times of Big Bill Haywood, Peter Carlson, 1983, pp. 80.
  3. ^ Michael P. Malone, William L. Lang, The Battle for Butte, 2006, page 77.
  4. ^ A History of American Labor, Joseph G. Rayback, 1966, page 233.
  5. ^ Michael P. Malone, William L. Lang, The Battle for Butte, 2006, page 79.
  6. ^ William Philpott, The Lessons of Leadville, Colorado Historical Society, 1995, page 71.

Notable People from Butte[edit]

Lucille Ball was born in and raised near Jamestown, NY. Jamestown is in Western NYS, which isn't anywhere near NYC.
Lucille Ball
IMDB
Official Site Moggsy 17:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

About 3/4 of this list could safely be cut, especially when it comes to the actors/artists, sports figures, and politicians on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.137.57 (talk) 09:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


Quit posting "Free Beer" guy and "Chris Michaels. They are small time radio jocks in markets that no one cares about. Someone made the comment about Milt Popovich, well...He played in the NFL which means he is one of only a select few. Radio jocks aren't select company. If you want to list a radio jock who's tie to Butte is being raised there...Then list ALL of Butte's current and past local TV personalities and radio jocks as well and do bios for EACH and EVERY ONE then those two unknowns get on this page. , Now if Jim Rome, Howard Stern, Dan Rather, Rick Dees etc were raised or started in Butte they'd be worth listing, a small time jock isn't worth being added to the list.


On a similar note, Dashiell Hammett was born in Maryland. [3] It appears that he spent time in Butte while working for Pinkerton, but calling him a native constitutes misinformation. Also, Hammett is famous for the hard-boiled detective novel—not for having worked at Pinkerton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.6.56 (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Since the airport is named for him, Bert Mooney should be listed. Aviator and aircraft designer. 76.4.243.226 (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.243.226 (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Did he live there at any time? If so, he should be; if not, he shouldn't be. Nyttend (talk) 21:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikilinks[edit]

See WP:MOS-L -- linking years throughout the article is adding noise, not context. And that would be bad enough if they were only Wikilinked once, and not repetitively as was the case in this article. --Walor 16:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Fire & Brimstone[edit]

Tells the tale of The North Butte Mining Disastor, & Manus Duggan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.159.176.57 (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

Great book for any Butteian to read I might add... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seattlehawk94 (talkcontribs) 16:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Open Containers[edit]

The copy early on points out that Butte is the 'only city' where open containers of liquor are allowed at any time, which it footnotes FIVE times, but the source is always the same newspaper. In fact, except during Prohibition, the City of New Orleans has never had a closed container law! Further,in the State of Louisiana, you can have an open container in your car, so long as it is in the possession of a passenger and not the driver. I'm not recommending it, merely pointing out that newspaper editors are not necessarily very good sources of information when you're talking about their home town and such words as 'highest, lowest, most, only, least, unique, outstanding,...' Lamabillybob 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed the line once, when the only source was what is now ref. #5, a statement to the reporter by a man on the street. #5 is still not a reliable source. Geologyguy 15:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation?[edit]

Think of "Beautiful Butte America" Butte is pronounced the same as the first syllable of beautiful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.202.19 (talk) 15:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Bute? But? Butty? Rothorpe (talk) 23:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

One syllable, Byut, u as in you, silent e. Rhymes with cute.Geologyguy (talk) 03:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll put it in. Rothorpe (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts and Prayers...[edit]

If anyone who lost anyone in this horrible event is reading this our hearts in the Butte community go out to you and your families at this time...--seattlehawk94 (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Recent History[edit]

I made a more precise and accurate account of Butte-Silver Bow's population. The previous paragraph inaccurately stated that Butte's population had held steady since 1960. Actually the old city limit population between 1960 and 1980 dropped nearly 30%, from 33,251 to 23,368! The county population dropped from 46,454 to 38,092, then on down to 33,941 by 1990. (these figures include Walkerville). I then added the latest 2008 Census estimate of 32,119. ( which is Butte-Silver Bow, which of course does not include Walkerville) All these figures are available on the census website (www.census.gov) where I obtained them on this day, 02/11/2010.

Longnskinny (talk) 08:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)Longnskinny


Why was my change deleted in recent history? Longnskinny (talk) 14:13, 13 February 2010 (UTC)longnskinny

You didn't cite any reliable sources for the edits; if you want to use something from the Census Bureau's website, you'll have to add a link to that to show where you got it. I don't know how to go from census.gov to estimates pages, so without a link to the right page, I can't verify that what you wrote is accurate. Nyttend (talk) 05:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

The previous statement that the population had held steady didn't have ANY references at all and was not even close to being accurate or truthful. Anyone smart enough to edit these pages should not have difficulty finding population figures or estimates on the very well used U.S. Census Bureau website. Obtained on this day: 02/15/2010Longnskinny (talk) 23:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)longnskinny

Why was my info deleted again? Longnskinny (talk) 20:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)longnskinny

You didn't cite any sources. Nyttend (talk) 20:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes I did cite sources. You deleted them.Longnskinny (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)longnskinny
No, there were never any sources that I deleted. Nyttend (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

There were indeed. Quit deleting my contributions for no reason, please.Longnskinny (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)longnskinny

I can't delete something that wasn't there in the first place. Find me some sources, please? Nyttend (talk) 04:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Quit deleting my material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longnskinny (talkcontribs) 05:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I am trying to find some info on my great grandfathers mineing accident some time in the 50's. His last name was Giecek.He was in and explsion in the copper mine and was blinded. Any info would be helpfull. You can contact me at cgiecek@twincitytrailer.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.210.197 (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Butte is not the capital of Montana - Helena is[edit]

The opening sentence of the page lists Butte as the capital of Montana. The capital of Montana is Helena, and I know this to be true from the Animaniacs "Wakko's America" 50 states and capitals song, which I may add is very catchy and helpful for learning all the states and their capitals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.25.39.160 (talk) 02:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Time to re-organise the article name?[edit]

The official name is Butte-Silver Bow according to the official website. Would it be time to migrate this page to this new one? Mattximus (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

No. The government is a consolidated entity, but the community has not been renamed. Montanabw(talk) 04:54, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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City-county[edit]

The city of Butte is not the entire county; there is a consolidated city-county government, but there is an Urban Boundary, shown by this image from the Butte-Silver Bow government page. the 2010 version of this map may be more readable. The boundaries need to be fixed; only a small portion of the county is urban. Montanabw(talk) 03:49, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

The rest of the information in the box is based on the full area, though, not just the "urban" portion. If there's going to be a map showing the boundary, it should be the boundary on which the other figures are based, which is the red area on the current map. It might be better to just avoid the boundary altogether, as in the Anaconda article.--Ibagli (Talk) 08:47, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Butte, Montana/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Stedil (talk · contribs) 22:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)


Greetings! I will be reviewing this article. I plan to start going through the article tomorrow, time permitting. I'll update review progress in the table, with specific concerns to address below. Stedil (talk) 22:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well written:
1a. the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct. A few small little things here and there, but overall very good.
1b. it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. A few issues to clean up in the lead. Update: fixed.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Biggest issue with the article is here. Quite a few suggestions for improvement, listed below. Update: one more issue left. Final update: fixed.
2b. all inline citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines. sources are mostly reliable.
2c. it contains no original research. may contain OR, though perhaps all information in the article can be properly cited. Update: fixed.
2d. it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism. just a few small moments where the text closely mirrors the source. Update:fixed.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content. one fair use that has valid rationale. Lots of public domain images.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment. A lot of citation issues to address. I'll give you some time to address these issues before making a decision. Update: issues have been addressed, so I'll pass the article. Nice work!

Lead[edit]

  • "contemporarily, Butte has the largest population of Irish Americans" 'contemporarily' is vague. Be specific - substituting with something like 'As of 2017' is more precise.
  • Double check the population and other data/statistics in the infobox. The 2010 census population numbers, by my check, are wrong. Also, there is no official population estimate for Butte for 2018. The Census Bureau hasn't even released 2017 population estimates for Butte yet (these are being rolled out gradually throughout the US in 2018), so the most recent population estimate should be 2016 until then.
  • There is some weasily language - "most notorious," "famous", "priding itself"
  • Remember that the lead should summarize the contents of the body of the article. If this is done properly, then citations in the lead should be unnecessary or minimal. Double check to make sure all info in the lead is discussed and referenced in the body of the article. Stedil (talk) 23:48, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Early History and Immigrants[edit]

  • "Butte began as a mining camp in the 1860s" The lead and infobox are more specific (1864). Is there a reason this is more vague? It needs to be consistent.
  • " In 1864, William L. Farlin staked the Asteroid Mine (later known as the Travona)" copied word for word from source.
  • third paragraph: the info about the "red light district" needs to be cited. The citation at the end of the paragraph only contains information about beer and breweries. Stedil (talk) 00:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Industrial Expansion[edit]

  • "Between 1884 and 1888, Clark constructed the Copper King Mansion in Butte, which became his second residence from his home in New York City." citation needed.
  • "Four industrial magnates fought for control of Butte's mining wealth." Can a specific source that talks specifically about this be found? The sources later on tangentially list each individually as a "Copper King," but none actually connect the four together, or describe any "fight for control" between them.
  • "equivalent to $626,451,852 in 2017" citation needed.
  • "It was the first city in Montana to have electricity" I can't find this in the DEQ source (unless I missed it). Double check - I think a separate citation is needed.
  • "making it the largest producer of copper in North America and second only to South Africa in world production of metals." copied from source. Rephrase. Stedil (talk) 01:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Anaconda Copper and civil unrest[edit]

  • "In the 1920s, it had a virtual monopoly over the mines in and around Butte." citation needed.
  • "even electing a Mayor on the Socialist ticket in 1914" double check this source. I don't have access to the full book, but I searched for "mayor" within the Google Books version, and caught a snippet which seems to say that the socialist mayor served from 1911 to 1914.
  • "the event was the largest hard rock mining accident in the history" The history of what?
  • Everything from "A rescue effort commenced" to "some survived" is unsourced. Citation(s) needed.
    • There are still a lot of details in this section that aren't found in any of the sources. Stedil (talk) 18:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Citation needed tag at the end of the 3rd paragraph is valid and should be addressed.
  • "The loss of miners in the incident sparked additional strikes and protests, as well as the establishment of the Metal Mine Workers Union, which led 15,000 workers to abandon their jobs" meaning unclear - what led the workers to abandon their jobs - the loss of miners or the establishment of the union? (probably the loss of miners). Rephrase. I recommend making it clear that both the establishment of the Metal Mine Workers Union and the 15,000 jobs abandoned were both the result of the miner deaths.
  • "The historian Janet Finn has examined this "tale of two cities"—Butte and Chuquicamata as two ACM mining towns" This is an odd sentence. Is it necessary? Stedil (talk) 01:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Open pit mining era[edit]

  • "Disputes between miners' unions and companies continued through the 1920s and 1930s in Butte" source only lists strikes in 1920 and 1921.
  • "protestors attempted to blow up the Hibernian Hall on Main Street with dynamite." source doesn't say anything about protesters. No connection made in source between attempt to blow up the hall and disputes with miners' unions.
  • "Between 1914 and 1920, the U.S. National Guard occupied Butte a total of six times to restore civility" What does this have to do with the 20s and 30s? Doesn't this sentence belong in the 'civil unrest' section?
  • "The copper mines proved to be prosperous until the 1950s" but the source says Anaconda cut production in the 1920s, and that there was a slump in production in the 30s.
  • "declining grade of ore" but the source says the switch was because open-pit mining is less labor-intensive. It doesn't say anything about the grade of ore. I noticed that another source (Shovers 1998) mentions lower grade ore.
  • "costly and dangerous practice of underground mining" Is it? Once again, the source says nothing about the cost or dangers of underground mining in comparison to open pit.
  • Everything from "At the time" to "In 1982, all mining in the Berkeley Pit was suspended" is unsourced. I think I saw most of this information in other sources - transplant them here to show proper attribution. Stedil (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Post-millenium[edit]

  • sentence beginning, "Around twenty of the headframes" needs a citation.
  • "Many areas of the city" there is a citation at the end of this sentence, but it only tangentially addresses the topic (restoration of signs). Could a better source be found that discusses preservation efforts in general?
  • "is now the largest National Historic Landmark District in the United States" source only says 'one of the largest,' not the largest. "with nearly 6,000 contributing properties" number of properties not mentioned in source.
  • Sentence beginning, "Environmental research and clean-up efforts" is too long. Separate the ideas into at least two (or more) sentences.
  • Citation at the end of the section is (on my browser, at least) dead. Double check, and replace citation, if needed. Stedil (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


@Stedil:I have addressed everything above this point (i.e. lead section and whole of the History section) as of 27 April 2018. I have plugged new sources in and addressed inconsistencies and other issues you raised. Let me know if I have missed anything pertinent—it's possible I may have missed something here in the shuffle. The only point I'm not sure how to address is your note about a citation needed for the "equivalent to $626,451,852 in 2017"—reason being that the inflation is calculated by the Template:Inflation/US function, which is used to convert the $23,000,000 total. The $23 million total itself is cited; the inflation function is merely reinterpreting it to give readers an idea of the contemporary monetary equivalent. Let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks for all your work. I will resume the points you've raised below (i.e. Geography section onward) in short order. --Drown Soda (talk) 23:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah, ok. I didn't know Wikipedia had a template that calculates inflation. I'll strike that point. Stedil (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Stedil: No worries—I am going to do some more work and hopefully finish addressing your points this evening. However, I noticed the article was given a quick-fail on 19 February due to a couple of issues that have since been resolved. I never saw this before. Does this require a renomination then, or can you pass/fail at this point without renomination? --Drown Soda (talk) 23:33, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
It shouldn't be an issue. The article was placed immediately back in the queue following a discussion about several articles quick failed by that reviewer. (See discussion here). Stedil (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Geography[edit]

  • "According to the United States Census Bureau the city has a total area of 716.8 sq mi (1,856.5 km2), of which 716.1 sq mi (1,854.7 km2) is land and 0.66 sq mi (1.7 km2) (0.09%) is water." These numbers don't match those in the source. I noticed the source refers to the Census numbers for Silver Bow County, not Butte. My understanding is that while the governments have been consolidated, the county and the city limits are not exactly identical. When I looked at the census data, the numbers for Silver Bow County were different than the numbers for Butte. Double check and update source and/or info as needed.
  • "Butte is also home to one of the largest deposits of bornite." citation needed.
  • "Of all United States communities situated on the Continental Divide, Butte is the most populous" citation needed.
  • The citation to Google Maps confuses me. Does Google Maps show the location of the Continental Divide? Stedil (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Demographics[edit]

  • Citation to the census bureau (Quick Facts) doesn't go to the census bureau. Replace web citation.
  • As I mentioned earlier, double check the data in this section and make sure it reflects the population statistics of Butte according to the 2010 census. Harmonize the information in this section with the infobox. Stedil (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
    • I still found a lot of inconsistencies in this section, so I made some significant changes. One issue with the "Quick Facts" page is it pulls some of its numbers from ACS survey data, not the Decennial Census. The ACS has a wider margin of error than the Census, so I replaced this data with the 2010 Census numbers. I also tweaked some numbers in the table and infobox so they are all consistent with each other. Some of the numbers referred to Silver Bow County instead of the city of Silver Bow-Butte (balance), which are different because of Walkerville. Stedil (talk) 20:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Government and Politics[edit]

  • I like the presidential election chart, but could it perhaps be updated to show results from the 2016 presidential election? Stedil (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Historical Sites and Museums[edit]

  • "Butte was one of only twelve towns in America to be named a Distinctive Destination by the National Trust for Historic Preservation" I'm receiving an error 404 message for the archive link. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Events and Traditions[edit]

  • "Each year, about 30,000 revelers converge on Butte's historic Uptown district" I can't find this in the source, though I can't listen to the video in my current location. Double check whether this fact is supported in the source.
  • "This event draws over 50,000 motor sport enthusiasts and fans of Evel Knievel (a Butte native) from around the world" None of this info is in the cited source.
  • "this event attracted 170,000 attendees for the three-day celebration of traditional music, art, dance and cuisine" citation needed.
  • "largest free-of-admission music festival in Montana" not in source, which says "one of the largest in the northwest." Even if this claim were made, The source is the festival organizer, which wouldn't be a reliable source for this claim.
  • "which is the largest in the state" citation needed.
  • "have arguably become Montana's symbolic foods, known and enjoyed throughout Montana" not supported by the source. Source mentions the different types of food, but doesn't say anything about their place in Montana as a whole. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Environmental Concerns[edit]

  • "The mining and smelting operations of the Anaconda Copper Mining Corporation were the primary cause of this pollution at the headwaters of the Clark Fork River." Double check if this is supported by the source. I think the source is suggesting that there were multiple organizations responsible for the contamination, and that a large number of the abandoned mines are not currently owned by anybody.
  • "Most of the waste was created by the Anaconda Copper Mining Corporation" the source says that Anaconda was "one of the Potentially Responsible Parties," which doesn't support the assumption that most of the waste came from them.
  • " great quantities of lead and other heavy metals into the air (MacMillan)" is MacMillan supposed to be a citation? Link to the article. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Sports[edit]

  • "after 2000, the team became the Grand Junction Rockies" Some rewording needed. The team is currently known as the Grand Junction Rockies. It didn't have this name in 2000.
  • "Purchased the Glacier Nationals franchise in the North American 3 Hockey League in for the 2017–18 season but went dormant prior to playing the season" rephrase this sentence. It is a sentence fragment, and has some errors ('in for') You may consider restructuring the first sentence to connect them better. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Education[edit]

  • "has been nationally recognized among the top 10% of engineering universities in the United States" find a source independent of the university to provide this info, as it could be promotional.

Media[edit]

  • "It was founded in 1928 and is the result of The Butte Miner and the Anaconda Standard merging into one daily paper. Prior to 1928, the newspaper had been known as The Butte Miner". Doesn't the second sentence contradict the first?
  • "partially shot in Butte in September 1974" citation link is dead. Access date is missing. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Additional Comments[edit]

@Drown Soda: Initial review completed. I have placed the review on hold to give you time to respond. Let me know when you have addressed everything, and I'll take another look. Stedil (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

@Stedil: thanks much. I will look over this in the next few days and start filling in the gaps here. --Drown Soda (talk) 01:07, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
@Stedil:I think I have ticked the boxes so far here, but let me know if something appears outstanding. An online version of Ref. 151 concerning The Killer Inside Me is unfortunately gone; the newspaper was previously archived at Newspapers.com, but it appears to have been removed. I left the newspaper source information as a reference without an online copy (unsure of what else to do about this). Best, --Drown Soda (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Drown Soda: I have looked through the article again. I had two comments above, only one of which needs action from you (look for the green text). Stedil (talk) 20:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@Stedil: I reviewed your above comment--I believe you were referring to the "Anaconda and civil unrest" (1.3) section, no? I added some additional sources there to sentences that were lacking. If there are inconsistencies or discrepancies between the source/the sentence, do you know which citation numbers have the problem specifically? I can't seem to track them. --Drown Soda (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
@Drown Soda: Yes, I was referring to the Anaconda section that discussed the mining incident. I'm not seeing any discrepancies between source and sentence. Since you have fixed the issue, I'll go ahead and pass the article. Stedil (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

In Popular Culture; Film and Television[edit]

Route 66; Season 2, Episode 1 "A Month Of Sundays" (September 22, 1961). Tod and Buz, in Butte, Montana working as laborers in a copper mine, meet a beautiful girl at their rooming house. She's a local girl who made it big in NY but mysteriously came home despite being the star of a current Broadway hit. Buz quickly falls in love and becomes serious, but Tod knows her dark secret. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.237.81.222 (talk) 07:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)