Talk:C. P. Snow

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"He makes a robust defence of the realistic novel and is particularly astute in his judgement of James." - Bold section is personal opinion /POV - I'm removing. --- 201.50.248.179 20:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Territorial designation[edit]

Not this again. When someone is created a Peer, they take a title and a territorial designation. The title sometimes includes a place name, when there has been a previous Peerage with the same name. In this case, C.P. Snow was elevated to the Peerage as Baron Snow. His title was Baron Snow and nothing more. His territorial designation was 'of the City of Leicester'. See List of life peerages (1958–1979)#Harold Wilson (1964–70) to see this Peerage in context. Sam Blacketer (talk) 22:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Although the editor does not give a source for his edit, he is strictly correct in finding that the usage "Baron Snow of the City of Leicester" is incorrect. Debrett's Correct Form (Futura 1979, page 26) states that every Baron is given a territorial designation (in this case "of the City of Leicester") and that in some cases the territorial designation forms part of the title. This is not the case for Baron Snow. However Snow was closely identified with Leicester and is (inaccurately) named as "Baron Snow of the City of Leicester" in many sources. In this case it is appropriate to use the correct formal usage given by Debrett "Baron Snow, of the City of Leicester" (note the addition of the comma) and I make this change to the article in two places. If the editor wishes to debate the matter further he could take it to a notice board. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC).
You acknowledge that using the form 'of the City of Leicester' is problematic then proceed to use it and insist others take it to the notice board! The Td (except where it is part of the title itself) should not be used - Sam is quite correct. The Td in this instance is only properly used on the LP granting the title. Debretts can do what it pleases but sources of much better authority HofLords/hansard disagree in even formal usage. The fact some people commonly use it wrongly is not an argument for inclusion - Wiki is trying to be and encyclopaedia not an agglomeration of common mistakes or false usage. All you are likely to achieve with your changes is to increase the likelihood of people misunderstanding Snow's title and how to use is correctly. There is no reason to depart in this article from our normal community standard way of dealing with titles. Garlicplanting (talk) 13:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Title[edit]

Wikipedia policy at WP:PEER explains quite clearly that the title should be right after the name. Period. --The Theosophist (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you should have taken the trouble to read this talk page, where the matter is discussed in the above thread, before editing the article and reverting my correction. The current version was inserted by another editor,[1] and is supported by myself. Please don't start an edit war over a comma. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC).
I actually did take that trouble, and the above consensus is against Wikipedia policy.--The Theosophist (talk) 11:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Reverted move[edit]

It is good that the move to Charles Percy Snow, Baron Snow has been reverted. Snow is most notable as a novelist and as such is always known as C. P Snow. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:34, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Trackteur_reported_by_User:Andy_Dingley_.28Result:_.29 Andy Dingley (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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