Talk:C. S. Lewis

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Irish not British[edit]

First line says he was British. In paragraph about Yeats he is quoted as saying "then thank the gods that I am Irish". Slipper8 (talk) 21:41, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Slipper8

He was both. (See extensive discussion in the archives.) "Irish" in the quote you mention was in contradistinction to "English", not "British". -- Elphion (talk) 21:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
The term "UK author" would be more appropriate IMHO (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
The UK did not exist during the time of Lewis. --Joshualouie711talk 23:34, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
The UK started in 1707 as the union of England and Scotland. Ireland was added in 1801. So it was, in fact, around in Lewis's time. -- Elphion (talk) 05:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Aren't you conflating several political bodies? Kingdom of Great Britain 1707–1800, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland 1801–1922, finally United Kingdom as of 5 December 1922. Feel free to continue the discussion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:56, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
To what possible end? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:29, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Good question. Just stating re-framing the last comment and don't want to squelch conversation. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:31, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't fully understand. He self identified as Irish, he didn't self identify as British. He was Irish. Why is there even a discussion about this? larryone (talk) 08:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

It seems fair to say that he was Irish. Are you suggesting that this implies that he can't have been British? (Incidentally, do we know which passport(s) he held?) -- Hoary (talk) 09:11, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
There are many people born in Ireland who self-identify as British, and many as both. Lewis self-identified as Irish. Consistently. --larryone (talk) 14:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

The only question that really matters here is: what do reliable sources say? Paul August 18:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Reliable sources like the author himself? He wrote about being Irish. --larryone (talk) 14:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
On what page of which published work? —VeryRarelyStable (talk) 11:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Lewis was Irish not British ! There's no evidence he identified as British ,This attempt to describe him as British as a sort of primacy is to cover up he was Irish, and so the English can claim him as one of their own .Ireland being part of the uk during this time holds no relevancy to the discussion . Its the equivalent of saying anyone born in Poland during nazi occupation was German . There's a clear level of bias permeating through these threads with english and British rot .please at the very least add the fact to the top of the page that he was Irish,this was very clearly important to him throughout his life ,politics shouldn't come into it he was irish first and foremost . The page has purposely been perverted by British nationalists . — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, when Lewis discusses patriotism in The Four Loves, he cites examples of English or British patriotism and refers to the English as "we". He does argue against some forms of English patriotism but never, in that passage, distinguishes himself as Irish. The closest he comes to referring to Ireland in that context is putting the Black & Tans on a list of examples of patriotism turned evil. —VeryRarelyStable (talk) 10:18, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I wish people would stop mixing up ethnic nationality and citizen nationality. Lewis was Irish in terms of ethnic nationality as that is the part of the UK he was born, and is a manner of speaking that is still very common in the UK, i.e. English, Scottish, Welsh etc. Yet none of them means the person is not British. He was a British citizen until the day he died. Mabuska (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
"Lewis was Irish in terms of ethnic nationality" – not true either. He was Anglo-Irish, which is to say he was ethnically English but lived in Ireland. When he was born, all of Ireland was governed from London; when that changed, the part of Ireland he lived in (just out of Belfast) continued to be governed from London. I'm not sure whether he would have been at university or in the army at the time of the Rising, I'd have to look that up. —VeryRarelyStable (talk) 00:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Belfast is part of Northern Ireland United Kingdom not Ireland so change this Steele7648 (talk) 20:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

What content (precisely describing where it is) would you like to see changed, and to what precisely would you like to see it changed? Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:52, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2018[edit]

Yes I vehemently oppose the use of the term "Christian apologist" in the description of Mr.C.S. Lewis accomplishments and accolades. He was a man of great renown. One of the foremost thinkers of his time;and any other period of history.He was an eminent writer and lecturer. That term being attributed to him would be like assigning the term "Atheist apologist" to Christopher Hitchens; yet I note it does not say this in his description of accolades and accomplishments.If you wish to be taken as a a serious source of information, not one laden with personal bias and subjective opinions rather than objective truths you must edit the bias.Just the facts ....please.Thank you Sincerely Thomas Milazzo (talk) 08:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

This is an ignorant request. "Apologetics" is the branch of Christian theology concerned with raising rational arguments for believing in the Christian faith; one who pursues it, like St Thomas Aquinas, is an "apologist". Lewis used both words for himself and his Christian writings. The fact that the word "apologist" has taken on negative connotations since his time is unfortunate but irrelevant. VeryRarelyStable (talk) 11:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Did not keep up with current affairs[edit]

This article could mention that C.S. Lewis never watched television, listened to the radio or read newspapers. He was very badly informed about current affairs, and said "If there were a war one, some one would tell me". Vorbee (talk) 07:53, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

The Four Loves[edit]

This article does not say very much about a book by C.S. Lewis called "The Four Loves". Vorbee (talk) 08:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the "Other works" section, and we have a separate article about it. I can't see much point in including more about what isn't really a major work. Deor (talk) 15:16, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2018[edit]

Could Category:Christian philosophers be replaced with the more specific Category:Anglican philosophers? Thanks, (talk) 20:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. Also replaced Category:Christian writers with Category:Anglican writers. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:20, 25 September 2018 (UTC)