Talk:Cadence-lypso

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Cadence-lypso and cadence reminds me of reggae and reggaeton. Reggaeton started with reggae, but incorporated other sounds to create something new, even if the beat and name still reflects its predecessor it have evolved to its own genre of music.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.192.218.161 (talk) 02:52, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SORRY, that is not the case here: Cadence-lypso is the same cadence or compas popularized by the Sicot brothers and Nemours Jean-baptiste. Before Webert Sicot introduced it in the Caribbean there was no cadence at all. The Sicot brothers schooled French Antillean musicians who created the past solid cadence bands that you know. They introduced cadence to Dominica. Cadence bands such as gramacks, exile one and others evolved into solid music bands that incorporated new technologies over time to cadence giving new sound without changing the cadence style. As a proof the dance and technics remind the same. The references are all over in books, including Jocelyne Guilbault but still you want to go solo with your exaggerations. One thing you should cultivate: ethics to respect existing music style without pretention of revolutionizing it. Music styles evolve over time with technologies and exposure to cultural changes. Is the rock n roll of the 60s the same as today? is the RnB of the late 70s same as today? is Beyoncé songs exactly the same as those of Witney or Diana Ross? Finally in the case of reggae and reggaeton there is a big confusion. RegardsPintade (talk) 16:15, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why the title cadence-lypso is so important for Dominica and the French Antilles?[edit]

The title cadence-lypso is maintained mostly by the French Antilleans unable to find a basis for the zouk love origination. As already explained, Jeff Gordon used the word cadence-lypso "mizik a nou", "our music" because the band repertoire was calypso and mostly cadence: The two influential music of Dominica. Dominican cadence bands also feature reggae music. Originally the word kadans was on the albums covers whether it's grammacks or exile one. They all featured calypso, reggae and mostly cadence. Grammacks: mideba (kadans), banana (sweet-kadans), ou pa bon, (kadans), ou pitit (kadans), reggae down, disco live (kadans) this same tune is categorized as zouk retro by Deejay Zak (midlay kadans 11/24/2011) Exile one: akiyaka, gade deye...(Midnight) get ready 1997, etc. This part is not to completely deny any attempt made to fusion cadence and calypso, the point here is that the great majority of the songs are either calypso, reggae or mostly kadans. If there is any fusion it should not be significant enough to be listed on album or CD covers, which would be confusing. Grammacks, Exile One, Ophelia Marie, and many Dominican bands played cadence-lypso (Dominica Kadans) that later influenced zouk love in the French Antilles. Nowadays, zouk-love is called the French Antilles cadence or compas music.

In the early 70's, Gordon Henderson, Exile One's leader and founder coined the name "Cadence-lypso" in his full band that used a full-horn section and was the first to use the synthesizers in kadans. Many mini-jazz from Haiti and the French Antilles followed this format. In Haiti, two of the most popular bands, Les Difficiles de Pétionville became D.P Express and Les Gypsies became Scorpio Universel after adding a full horn section in addition to their new keyboard synthesizer.

In 1973, Shorty was the first to really define his music and with "Indrani" and "Endless Vibration" (not just the song but the entire album) in 1975, calypso music really took off in another direction. Later in 1975 Shorty visited his good friend Maestro in Dominica where he stayed (at Maestro's house) for a month while they visited and worked with local cadence artists. You had Maestro experimenting with calypso and cadence ("cadence-lypso"). Sadly a year later Maestro would die in an accident in Dominica and his loss was palpably felt by Shorty, who penned "Higher World" as a tribute.

In Dominica, Shorty had attended an Exile One performance of cadence-lypso, and collaborated with Dominica's 1969 Calypso King, Lord Tokyo and two calypso lyricists, Chris Seraphine and Pat Aaron in the early 1970s, who wrote him some creole lyrics. Soon after Shorty released a song, "Ou Petit", with words like "Ou dee moin ou petit Shorty" (meaning "you told me you are small Shorty"). Shorty's 1974 Endless Vibrations and Soul of Calypso brought soca to its peak of international fame. Soon after, Shorty recorded a song "ou petit", a fusion of calypso, cadence. and the kwéyòl lyrics...this is considered to be the first "soca" song, another cadence-lypso tune (calypso and cadence).

In 1979, Kassav' was formed by Pierre-Edouard Décimus and Paris studio musician Jacob F. Desvarieux. Together and under the influence of well-known Dominican and Guadeloupean kadans-lypso or compas bands like Experience 7, Grammacks and Exile One,[1] they decided to make Guadeloupean carnival music recording it in a more fully orchestrated yet modern and polished style. Kassav' created its own style "zouk" by introducing an eleven-piece gwo ka unit and two lead singers, tambour, ti bwa, biguine, cadence-lypso: calypso and mostly cadence or compas with full use of the MIDI technology. In the 1980s they took Caribbean music to another level by recording in the new digital format. Their first album, Love and Ka Dance (1980), established the sound of zouk.

In 1988, Windward Caribbean Kulture started a fusion of jing ping and cadence-lypso...this later became bouyon music. Bouyon as popularized largely by the WCK band blends in jing ping, cadence-lypso, and traditional dances namely bèlè, quadrille, chanté mas and lapo kabwit, mazurka, zouk and other styles of caribbean music.[2] From a language perspective, Bouyon draws on English and Kwéyòl. It is popular across the Caribbean, and is known as jump up music in Guadeloupe and Martinique.

Dominica holds the title "cadence-lypso" a golden era for modern creole music.

Editing cadence-lypso[edit]

Glad we can now use your newly created talk page to make the point on the cadence-lypso section. Tell me you're willing to debate de subject and we will amiably start working together to make the section an acceptable one. Looking forward to getting your feedback.

Thank you Pintade (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]