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"Cal Poly" name[edit]

A number of editors of both the Cal Poly and Cal Poly Pomona articles have recently taken the position that only what is "official" may be referred to in wikipedia articles (see the discussion regarding Cal Poly flagship status). As such, I renew my objection to any language in the Pomona article that Cal Poly Pomona has been referred to as "Cal Poly." Using the arguments given by Pomona editors on the Cal Poly page, such usage is not official and amounts to "original research" and is POV. You can't have it both ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.242 (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

what are you talking about. if you know your history you would know that this campus was once part of cal poly. was split off( after about 30 years as being one campus). became a different campus. however, locals do refer it as cal poly(due to heritage reasons). many people (in southern california)think that cal poly is only the Pomona campus. but when you are in the northern part of the state, people think only of the San Luis Obispo campus. as with your case(in the san luis obispo article), it is different you are quoting an ASI comment and calling it official thats a NPOV75.24.250.6 (talk) 06:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
oh you should have put this in section 19 not start a new one. this whole its not cal poly thing has been going on for a while. dont start new sections unless they are about a different topic. your comment should have been in section 1975.24.250.6 (talk) 06:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
First, may I suggest you work on your grammar and punctuation? I know we aren't writing an English essay here, but I find it remarkably difficult to read your posts. Second, as you may have noticed, I've been a regular part of this debate for a while: I'm quite aware of the various positions on the matter.
Your arguments do not address my objection. Although I dispute your claims in their entirety, they aren't relevant to my position. Specifically, I'm saying that "Cal Poly" is the official name of California Polytechnic State University, not Cal Poly Pomona. A number of CPP editors on the Cal Poly article have recently advanced the position that if something isn't official, it can't be in the article at all (see the "flagship" section). Well, if that's the case, I renew my objection to this article stating that CPP is sometimes referred to by locals as "Cal Poly." That is absolutely unofficial, and must be removed by CPP editors own logic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.242 (talk)

What "some editors" write is unimportant. What is important is that the "flagship" status was stated by the Chancellor, and that it was thus referenced. That you would object to "Among local residents, it is often called by the shortened form "Cal Poly",[21] which does not fully distinguish it from its sister CSU campus in San Luis Obispo. Cal Poly Pomona has rejected such usage for official university documents.[12]" suggests that you are the POV pusher. Sometimes I have to ask myself, why is this of such over-arching importance to you? --Curtis Clark (talk) 14:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Importance to me? Take a look at your fellow Pomona ilk. I've never seen such obsession with articles. I personally have no interest in the CPP article, but when it misrepresents itself as Cal Poly, I do. Furthermore, when CPP editors try to block true, sourced material on the CP article, I also care.
Dr. Clark, I'd like to elaborate a bit more after thinking about it. My main issue is what I perceive to be some Pomona editor's double standard when it comes to the CPP and CP articles. One one hand, they demand that a sourced reference to Chancellor Reed's statement be completely removed on grounds that it is unofficial, while at the same time demand that unofficial language on CPP being referred to as Cal Poly must be included in the CPP article. I've tried to compromise on the CP article by stating it was only a reference by Dr. Reed, but no dice: the CPP editors demand a complete removal, and even flag the article with a neutrality tag (something which I believe to be clearly excessive over a single statement). I think such a double standard is inherently POV; if the standard applies to the Cp article, then it must apply to the CPP article as well. If the flagship referenced must be removed as being unofficial, so must the unofficial reference to CPP as CP.
Here are some recent third-party sources referring to Cal Poly Pomona as Cal Poly. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 , 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. A Google search of "Cal Poly San Luis Obispo" has 167,000 results and about 92,200 for Cal Poly SLO. Cheers.--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Marco, take a look at your "logic." The Cal Poly article makes citations that it has been referenced as the flagship, but you have demanded removal since they aren't official. Well, neither are the citations you make. What's that saying--What's good for the goose? You can't have it both ways buddy. Shall I put an accuracy tag on this article given the debate?

If indeed you have characterized Marco's views correctly, I disagree with him. Reed's statement should be included for exactly the same reason that the use of "Cal Poly" for the Pomona campus should be included. Although I think the Chancellor's statement in its current position has perhaps too much prominence, I would object to it being removed from the article. I think everyone should chill. With the entire CSU system undergoing a financial meltdown, there are many more important things to worry about.--Curtis Clark (talk) 03:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Aside from Reed statement, is there any other third-party source describing Cal Poly SLO as the "flagship"?--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 03:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Why do you need another source? The source currently used directly and accurately makes clear that it was said. It's unlikely that another source would be privy to this specific quote, as they are official minutes.
Neither the reference nor the article (currently) state that Cal Poly is the flagship campus. They state instead that Reed said it was. Big difference.--Curtis Clark (talk) 14:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the difference here is that there's been a consistent pattern within the local context to refer to Cal Poly Pomona as just Cal Poly. This has been going on since the creation of the campus and can easily be verified by searching for archived articles. The Daily Bulletin and the Los Angeles Times have consistently done this. I see nothing wrong with describing this pattern. On the other hand, there isn't a proven pattern describing Cal Poly San Luis Obispo as the "flagship" CSU campus. Until that happens, I feel that the reference to a one time incident comes off as "fishing" for a claim. Especially when that person may have misspoken. On a slightly different note, when one searches for "Cal Poly", one gets articles on both Pomona and SLO. This could be especially frustrating when a Pomona incident grabs the headlines such as when they won the Div 2 basketball national championship. In the age of the internet, maybe it's better to be known officially as "Cal Poly Pomona".--Seaprt (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

It is also crucial to note that California Polytechnic State University located in San Luis Obispo owns the trademark to "Cal Poly", and it has the exclusive legal rights to its usage. Therefore, whenever the term "Cal Poly" is employed, it is referring to exclusively to California Polytechnic State University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.245.244.66 (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Just because someone has a trademark that doesn't mean that they can determine what other people mean when they use the trademarked term. There are multiple campuses that the public may view as being "Cal Poly" so it's a good idea for us to be specific to ensure there isn't any confusion. ElKevbo (talk) 16:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

If there is a confusion as to what "Cal Poly" campus, people are referring to, I suggest that we use the term "Cal Poly, which is located in San Luis Obispo". This way, you are using the University's official name since its inception, and you clarify that we are talking about SLO. I believe CPP wiki entry's reference to the term Cal Poly San Luis Obispo is tantamount to using a popular nick name for a school, which is fine in a casual article. But bottom line is that Cal Poly San Luis Obispo is not the university's official name, and in an encyclopedia entry official names should be employed exclusively. Various editors on this page have insisted that only officially published material should be employed in CPP's entry. Well, Cal Poly is the officially published name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.245.244.66 (talk) 03:55, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Do people actually use the phrase "Cal Poly, which is located in San Luis Obispo" or do they just use "Cal Poly San Luis Obispo?" I suspect the latter, especially since that phrase is used in the description metatag for the university's own website. If that convoluted phrase isn't actually used by people then let's not use it here, especially when a simpler one will do.
You're also incorrect when you say that "in an encyclopedia entry official names should be employed exclusively." We don't use official names exclusively and we certainly don't use them when they're not commonly used and understood by most people. Heck, we don't even require that article titles be the official names of article subjects.
And if anyone has really "insisted that only officially published material should be employed" in this article then they're probably wrong so let's just ignore them and move on. :) ElKevbo (talk) 16:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
While Cal Poly is the official nickname according to the university, even the Chancellor's Office uses the term Cal Poly San Luis Obispo at times. 72Dino (talk) 16:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Hatnote needed?[edit]

According to WP:NAMB, if "a reader following links within Wikipedia or using Wikipedia's own search engine would not have ended up" at the article's title, a hatnote is not necessary. Readers won't end up at "California State Polytechnic University, Pomona" if they're looking for Cal Poly or Pomona College. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 01:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

It's important when making such a judgment to know what terms redirect to the page. For this page, the list can be found here.
Let's examine a few of these. Some might be entered by someone actually looking for Pomona College:
  • CSU Pomona
  • Cal state pomona
  • Pomona State University
  • University of California, Pomona
  • Cal Pomona
  • California-Pomona
Others might be entered by folks looking for Cal Poly:
  • State Polytechnic
There's even one that could be confused with Caltech:
  • Pomona Institute of Technology
I think there's a case that a reader could get to this page having looked imprecisely for one of the others.--Curtis Clark (talk) 04:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
My bad. I was just glancing through the redirects a few days ago, they must've slipped my mind. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 04:42, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Apropos the issue of confusion, a sixth-grader just sent me their Powerpoint about Pomona College and asked for a souvenir. The amazing thing was that the Powwerpoint was filled with images the student doubtless got from the Pomona College web site. <sigh /> --Curtis Clark (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

W.K. Kellogg or W. K. Kellogg[edit]

The Kellogg Foundation uses both "W.K." and "W. K." (notice the space in the latter) however I got the sense they prefer "W.K." as they use it significantly more on their website. The foundation's Wikipedia article uses "W. K." in its title but switches back and forth between the two throughout the article. Bearing in mind those two letters stand for William Keith, "W. K." seems to be more grammatically correct. Could someone please shed a light on this little dilemma? Many thanks!--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 04:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Marco: According to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) guideline, there is no consensus for either approach, but it does mention that the space between the initials is usually used. Alanraywiki (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Alanray! Let's take their advice and leave the space between the letters.--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 00:12, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Rankings[edit]

An anonymous editor User talk:71.134.246.80 just included a lot of information with regards to rankings. I think rankings that are specific to a college or program should go under their respective Wikipedia articles or maybe under California State Polytechnic University, Pomona academics and reword them so that they don't use peacock terms and/or weasel words. I can get working on it until tomorrow morning... (me sleepy!)--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 06:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

anonymous also wrote that Civil Engineering is the most impacted program on campus. I've changed to third most after reviewing the admission rate stats for architecture, animal veterinary science, and mechanical and civil engineering.--Seaprt (talk) 22:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Updating Pictures[edit]

I changed the picture of the view of the CLA building from the Collins School hill. It doesn't catch the library like the old picture, but I think this one is much better in quality. Please feel free to revert. I am also trying to get some Flickr users to contribute their work to this page. In particular, the same person that took the large CLA, library and BSC pictures currently on the page. I would like the stables and the Kellogg mansion shot updated with higher quality pictures as well. In general, shots taken from an SLR rather than a point and shoot should be the minimum quality standard. Perspective correction would be a plus. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seaprt (talkcontribs) 04:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

They look awesome. Thanks! --Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 06:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

update endowment[edit]

the school just got a 42 million endowment from Kellogg's http://polycentric.csupomona.edu/news_stories/2010/07/cal-poly-pomona-benefits-from-unprecedented-gift-from-wk-kellogg-foundation.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.27.237.94 (talk) 23:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It has been included on the article already. It's under the "Endowment" section here. Feel free to improve the article as you find convenient, but remembering that entries need to be referenced. If you wish to carry out an experiment you are free to carry out test in the sandbox here. If you need help, please ask questions in my talkpage here or in under this talk page as you did before. Thank you and happy editing. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  03:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Let's be careful where we put this--it isn't necessarily going into the university's general endowment, but rather appears to be a grant to be used to recruit minorities and veterans. As such, we shouldn't update the "endowment" section of the article, but rather should refer to it in a donation context. I imagine some of it may go into the general endowment (who knows at this point), but if and until it does and we have a citation, the number needs to stay the same. 76.173.171.94 (talk) 08:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence of the press release of the Kellogg Foundation states that it "has awarded $42 million for an endowment at Cal Poly Pomona". The overall university (technically, the University Educational Trust auxiliary) endowment value is made up of around 300 individual endowments for specific purposes like this one. However, the endowment value in the infobox and article body should not be changed until the NACUBO numbers come out around February. Alanraywiki (talk) 14:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Merely because the word "endowment" was used does not mean that it is part of the general endowment. For example, I could create an endowment for scholarships for students, which would not constitute university endowment. I agree that we should wait for a source. 206.114.21.246 (talk) 18:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually, if you did create an endowment for scholarships through your gift, that would be included in the overall university endowment. Alanraywiki (talk) 19:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


This endowment is not just for minorities(racial) and veterans. It's for underrepresented groups which also includes foster children of all races.--Seaprt (talk) 06:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Alumni[edit]

Just found out from the Cal Poly Pomona Facebook page that James Williamson, guitarist for the legendary punk rock band The Stooges, got his electrical engineering degree in 1982 from Pomona. This is news to me. I tried searching for a reference but could not find one other than the video in which he states it. Is this a legit source? I added his name to the alumni section. Anyone, please research and revise as needed.--Seaprt (talk) 08:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Facebook is not a credible source. If the university is promoting itself by mentioning Williamson is an alum, there should be an official publication or pamphlet available from the school's website, admissions office, or alumni relations department to support this claim. You've just got to find it. -Mabeenot (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Nevermind, another source has already been added. -Mabeenot (talk) 21:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I originally included the current reference, not a facebook entry. I was wondering if a video on CNN Money of him stating he went there was the appropriate source. --Seaprt (talk) 21:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

article needs clean up[edit]

in some sections it reads like an advertisement. in other sections, the article is outdated, and for impacted majors, it is not fully complete —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.33.194 (talk) 03:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Housing[edit]

I've done research on housing stats in the past and it's confusing because some of the old brick halls have triple occupancy rooms. Also, the administration seems confused as to whether or not the village counts as on campus housing. It is clearly on campus property, and only difference is that it is operated by the Cal Poly Pomona foundation rather than Student Affairs. Does anyone know if the village should be included in the official bed count? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.131.7 (talk) 05:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Admission stats[edit]

I believe the latest admission stats are for both incoming freshmen and transfer students but are stated as incoming freshmen only. The read admit rate, I believe, should be 45 percent and not 41 as calculated.--Seaprt (talk) 05:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

would this news article be of any interest for the endowment figures?[edit]

http://www.fontanaheraldnews.com/articles/2010/12/22/news/doc4d1283cbcb2be653592726.txt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.46.136 (talk) 03:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:California State Polytechnic University, Pomona/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Racepacket (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


Thank you for nominating this article. No disamb. links. Two dead links marked.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    Wikilink Zimbabwe.
    Added wikilink.
    "Collins College of Hospitality Management" - is this the name of the building?
    Collins College of Hospitality Management is a college at Cal Poly Pomona.
    Need a building name to maintain parallel structure.
    Changed to: "At the center of the campus and atop Horsehill are the buildings comprising the Collins College of Hospitality Management and Kellogg West, a hotel and conference center and home of the student/faculty-run Restaurant at Kellogg Ranch."
    "Contrasting some of this architecturally prominent facilities"->"Contrasting some of these architecturally prominent facilities"
    Fixed usage of incorrect demonstrative word.
    "the growing population"->"the growing student enrollment"
    Fixed.
    "Cal Poly Pomona houses the International Polytechnic High School"->"Cal Poly Pomona operates the International Polytechnic High School" - word "houses" over-used
    Replaced ambiguous word. Also, I replaced other instances where the word "houses" was used out of context.
    Run on sentence: "CLA Building is located atop the San José Hills Fault and its structural stability was found to be inadequate in the event of a major earthquake and will be ." - missing comma before and. Need better phrase than "put into question"
    Replaced with: "Nevertheless, the CLA Building suffers from structural flaws, most notably, water intrusion. In 2005, the university filed a lawsuit against a contractor, for which it was compensated $13.3 million in an out-of-court settlement.[1] Amid these concerns, on September of 2010, the CSU Board of Trustees approved a proposal to have the building razed.[2]"
    "overcome its major flaws"->"address its seismic risks"
    See previous entry.
    What does "entitled building space" mean? - projected total building space?
    Yes, that's what it means. Thus, the sentence has been replaced with: "The project is currently at the halfway mark of building and leasing 1,000,000 square feet (93,000 m2) of the projected total building space."
    "In November 2007 Cal Poly"->"In November 2007, Cal Poly" - add comma
    Added comma.
    "center collectively known as BioTrek which provides " - comma before which and move ref for BioTrek into a footnote.
    "...center collectively known as BioTrek, which provides environmental education to all academic levels.[3]
    The period comes before the footnote - see fn 63.
    Good eye!
    "8th in least indebtedness"->"8th in least student indebtedness at graduation"
    Replaced with suggested sentence.
    "which is the third most impacted program on campus" - what does this mean?
    It means absolutely nothing. It was a "peacock phrase" introduced by other editor and has been removed.
    "According to Planetizen, Cal Poly Pomona's Urban and Regional Planning Programs without a Ph. D. ranks 2nd in the nation."->"According to Planetizen, Cal Poly Pomona's Urban and Regional Planning Programs ranks 2nd in the nation for non-Ph.D. programs." - if Cal Poly has a Ph.D. program why is it being ranked as a non-PhD institution. Please explain.
    Cal Poly Pomona is designated a master's university by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. This is because the highest degrees offered are masters'. Hence, the sentence has been replaced with: "Cal Poly Pomona's Urban and Regional Planning Programs ranks 2nd in the nation for non-Ph.D. programs, as the university's highest offered degrees are master's".
    " (1. Harvard, 2. U. Penn...8. University of California, Berkeley)" and "(1. Harvard, 2. Virginia Tech.)." - why selectively single out these other schools. I would delete as inappropriate.
    Agree. this is clearly non-NPOV.
    Move table showing demographics of student body down to "Admissions" section.
    Table has been moved.
    "year specific cutoff"->"year-specific cutoff"
    Added hyphen.
    "11 majors and undeclared" -> "11 majors and and students without a declared major" - whole sentence should probably be rephrased.
    Replaced with: "During the fall admissions filing period, the CSU system designates academic programs where more applications are received than can be accommodated by the campus, and designates them as "impacted".[4] At Cal Poly Pomona, impacted academic programs include:[5]"
    Good but you still have a "undeclared" problem, because it is not an "academic program."
    Replaced with: "During the fall admissions filing period, the CSU system designates academic programs where more applications are received than can be accommodated by the campus, and designates them as "impacted".[6] At Cal Poly Pomona, students who apply without a declared major and to the following programs are subject to more stringent admission standards:[7]"
    "With a housing capacity of"->"With an on-campus housing capacity of"
    Replaced as suggested.
    "In an effort to reduce commuting and raise academic standards,"->"In an effort to reduce commuting and raise academic performance and retention,"
    Replaced as suggested.
    Should "Housing" section be a subpart of "Campus" Section?
    Some featured articles such as: Florida Atlantic University, UC Riverside, and Texas A&M include their "housing" sections under "student life" section.
    "governed by the Greek Council.[107]" - move the external link to a footnote. You can have two different footnotes following the sentence.
    Done as suggested.
    Combine "International Students" section with "Admissions" section.
    Done as suggested.
    Why are Glenn Davis or Richard Neutra pictured but not included in the prose paragraph of the "Notable faculty and alumni" Section?
    Rewrote "Notable alumni and faculty" section to include both omissions.
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
    Lead has too much history and not enough summary of the entire article. WP:LEAD says that a 70K article should have four paragraphs of lead text.
    Lead has been divided into the following four paragraphs (1st - blunt introduction, 2nd - both campus & history, 3rd - academics, 4th - both student life & athletics) :
    California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, or Cal Poly Pomona, is a public university located in Pomona, California, United States. It is one of two polytechnics in the 23-member California State University system.
    Cal Poly Pomona began as a satellite campus of the California Polytechnic School (today known as Cal Poly San Luis Obispo) in 1938 when a completely equipped school and farm in the city of San Dimas were donated by Charles Voorhis and his son Jerry Voorhis. The satellite campus grew further in 1949 when a horse ranch in the neighboring city of Pomona, and who had belonged to Will Keith Kellogg, were acquired. Cal Poly Pomona, then known as “Cal Poly Kellogg-Voorhis Unit”, and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo continued operations under a unified administrative control until they became independent from each other in 1966.
    Cal Poly Pomona currently offers multiple educational programs in 9 academic units and enrolls over 20,000 students as of fall 2009. The university is one among a small group of polytechnic universities in the United States which tend to be primarily devoted to instruction in many technical arts and applied sciences.
    Once known strictly as a commuter school, in recent years Cal Poly Pomona has undertaken an effort to increase its academic standings while also evolving into a more traditional university. The university has raised admissions standards, increased on-campus student residences, built new facilities and expanded its undergraduate research opportunities. Its sports teams are known as the Cal Poly Pomona Broncos and play in the NCAA Division II as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA). The Broncos sponsor 10 varsity sports and have won 14 NCAA national championships.
    Reword: "While Cal Poly Pomona is part of the California State University, it is improper to refer to the campus with names such as "CSU Pomona"[13] and "Cal State Pomona".[14]" - avoid flat statements
    Replaced with: "The university's office of public affairs recognizes two official names for the university: "California State Polytechnic University, Pomona" and "Cal Poly Pomona".[8] However, "Cal Poly" has also used to refer to Cal Poly Pomona, as both itself and California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo, California were one institution spanning two locations from 1938 to 1966.[9] Cal Poly Pomona's office of public affairs recommends not to abbreviate the university's name merely as "Cal Poly".[8] Although part of the California State University system, Cal Poly Pomona's naming convention does not follow that of most campuses within the system (e.g. the CSU campus in San Diego bears the full official name "San Diego State University" and the CSU campus in Fullerton uses the name "California State University, Fullerton").[10][11] Thus, "Pomona State University" and "California State University, Pomona" are seldom used and not in the university's graphic standard's manual.[8] Nonetheless, Cal Poly Pomona's web page is csupomona.edu."
    "25-acre (100,000 m2) at Spadra Ranch,[34]" - is a word missing such as "ranch" or "campus"?
    Replaced with: "...25-acre (100,000 m2) at the former Spadra Landfill (now known as "Spadra Ranch"),[12][13]..."
    "The university has a local-serving area," - I don't understand what you are trying to describe. Is there where it draws the most students or the area served by its extension efforts? Do you mean the Tier 1 Area?
    Yes, it means tier 1 area, and I changed the sentence accordingly.
    "Bronco Express and BroncoLink" Section should be combined with the "Campus" section. As written, it sounds like BroncoExpress is student-only, but most campuses allow faculty and staff to use the bus system as well. Which is it?
    Done as suggested and included that student, faculty and guests are free to ride the BroncoExpress shuttle, but not BroncoLink shuttle. The entry reads as follows:
    "The entire campus community is served by a free campus shuttle system known as "Bronco Express". The shuttle system comprises 3 lines and is run by the office of Parking & Transportation Services (PTS). [14] In addition, PTS also offers a shuttle service known as "BroncoLink" which provides both students and faculty a direct connection from the Pomona North and Downtown Pomona Metrolink stations to the CLA Building.[15]"
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    There are warranted {{citation needed}} tags that require references.
    Done. All references use templates.
    Fn 14 which links to archive.org, no longer has a valid archive link.
    Reference replaced reference for one with a working URL.
    "Polytechnic universities in the United States tend to emphasizes science, technology, engineering, and mathematics programs.[69]" - Does fn 69 support the sentence as drafted?
    Definition of polytechnic now comes from Merriam-Webster and explains its Franco-Greek etymological origin.
    fn 105 Pocket Facts 2008 link is dead.
    Reference replaced reference for one with a working URL.
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Is http://www.uwstout.edu/polytechnic/upload/polyforum4-28.pdf a reliable source. It appears to be a powerpoint presentation of an on-campus committee studying whether to change UW-Stout to a "Polytechnic"-name.
    No longer used as previously mentioned.
    Add page 10 to the cite in fn. 38 - finanacial statement
    Done as suggested.
    Fn 93 and 101 - use {{cite web}} to include the title, publisher, date and accessdate to eliminate the naked URL cite.
    Done as suggested.
    Is collegeprowler a reliable source?
    In the further reading section of the featured article Dartmouth College, College Prowler is suggested as a potential source, and is also used at Michigan State's article as a reference as well as at Ohio Wesleyan's.
    C. No original research:
    "Five out of the top eleven schools are public schools. This makes Cal Poly Pomona the 5th best public school for undergraduate engineering among regional universities." =OR?
    Removed OR and moved individual colleges and rankings section to California State Polytechnic University, Pomona academics#rankings
    " Three of the seven schools are private schools. This makes Cal Poly Pomona the 3rd best public school for undergraduate Civil Engineering." =OR?
    Same as previous entry.
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    What about governance? Aside from the CSU Board of Trustees, is there a campus-specific board? Is it the "University Educational Trust Board? Who selects them? Are there any student or faculty representatives?
    Added University Educational Trust section to article
    Most university articles have a "Research" section.
    Cal Poly Pomona is not classified as a research university by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education, thus research activities are very limited, but there is an article on the initiative to increase undergraduate research opportunities at U.R. Bronco.
    What about the Library? Why is it under Campus instead of Academics? It deserves more than three sentences.
    Moved as suggested, added more information and references.
    What about the Japanese garden? Why a Japanese Garden? Is it a coincidence that Cal State Long Beach also has the Miller Japanese Garden?
    Expanded as suggested, included presence of Japanese gardens in LA County.
    B. Focused:
    I would delete the "Name" section.
    Moved to History section. Section was a result of a compromise over an edit war.
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
    No edit wars.
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    File:Cal Poly in San Dimas.JPG - needs fair use rationale.
    I have nominated File:Cal Poly Library Entrance.jpg for deletion. The licensing tag on this photo is self contradictory.
    File:Voorhis Vikings 1.png - needs stronger fair use rationale
    Done.
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    This article represents significant work by its author. Putting review on hold for you to address concerns. Racepacket (talk) 04:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

April 2 reading[edit]

Excellent work! I particularly love the Cornell quote. Please consider:

  • "defined as an geographical region surrounding the campus"->"defined as an geographical admissions region surrounding the campus"?
  • Agree and done.
  • "Japanese Garden is one among others"->"Japanese Garden is one among four"
  • Done.
  • Tier I area defined and discussed twice. Only need one such description/discussion. Please drop the other.
  • Done.
  • Greek life - are there houses? Are they on or off campus?
  • There is no "Greek row" on campus or fraternity or sorority houses on campus, but there seems to be just a few off-campus... decided to include those two who were found to have them.(?)
  • "participated in the Tournament of Roses since 1949"->"participated in the Tournament of Roses parade since 1949"??
  • Yes, that's correct!
  • BroncoLink and Bronco Express covered twice in campus and Student Life sections. Since they serve faculty, I would drop the latter.
  • Done.
  • Added footnote.

Let's wrap this up. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 23:19, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Please let me know which copyrighted pictures you are considering. If they were published before 1923, they can be used with the appropriate template. If there is a proper fair use rationale, they can be used even if they are still copyrighted. If you get permission, send the email to OTRS. Please let me know if you have specific quesitons about the photos. Racepacket (talk) 06:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I wanted to use a few images on the history section, but we may have to settle with only one to comply with fair use guidelines. The picture I truly enjoy is this image showing Will Keith Kellogg, his favorite Arabian horse Antez, and the oldest building on the Pomona campus in the background. However, showing only this image overlooks the --equally important-- influence of Charles Voorhis and Jerry Voorhis in its foundation. Showing two images would really put an end to this dilemma. Unfortunately, I have never come across an image showing Voorhis and Kellogg and doubt it exists. I already wrote a librarian for permission to publish under an "Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0)" license. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  19:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I suggest that you add one photo and we complete the review. If permission comes through from the second photo, you can add it later. Racepacket (talk) 01:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I talked to the head of Special Collections at Cal Poly Pomona, and she's unsure on who's the copyright owner. I think the copyright owner would be the university, as they are the sole publisher of the picture, legal owners of Mr. Kellogg's estate, and the picture was taken in 1929 on his former ranch (Cal Poly Pomona's current campus) by his photographer. Hence, she referred me to Public Affairs whom I will be paying a visit tomorrow. Regards, -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  01:55, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
The image's file has been created as the Special Collections & University Archives librarian graciously agreed to release the image under a CC license. I also added the image to the "history" section of the Cal Poly Pomona article along with a caption. Let me know if there are further points that need addressing. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  03:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I have made a correction to describe U.R.Bronco in the text of the article. I have notice the table of colleges has two [citations needed] in it. Actually, no citation is needed since the year is not given. Please add the year and the citation when you have a chance. But it is not required to meet GA criteria. So I will pass the article. Congratulatons! Racepacket (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

References[edit]

  1. ^ Hill, David (2010-09-27). "Antoine Predock's CLA Building in California May Be Demolished". Architectural Record. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
  2. ^ "CSU Approves Proposal to Replace CLA". polycentric. 2010-09-22. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
  3. ^ "About BioTrek". California State Polytechnic University, Pomona. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
  4. ^ "Impacted Programs". California State Polytechnic University, Pomona. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
  5. ^ "CAL POLY POMONA - Filing Status Notice for Freshmen". CSUMentor. Retrieved 2011-03-03.
  6. ^ "Impacted Programs". California State Polytechnic University, Pomona. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
  7. ^ "CAL POLY POMONA - Filing Status Notice for Freshmen". CSUMentor. Retrieved 2011-03-03.
  8. ^ a b c "Identity". Office of Public Affairs at Cal Poly Pomona. Retrieved 2010-02-01.
  9. ^ Pflueger 1999, p. 11.
  10. ^ "The New SDSU Graphic Identity System" (PDF). San Diego State University. p. 4. Retrieved 2011-03-28.
  11. ^ "Editorial Style" (PDF). California State University, Fullerton. p. 3. Retrieved 2011-03-28.
  12. ^ "Department Facilities". California State Polytechnic University, Pomona. Retrieved 2008-09-17.
  13. ^ "Spadra Landfill (Post Closure Activities)". Sanitation Districts of Los Angeles County. Retrieved 2011-03-26.
  14. ^ "Bronco Express Shuttle Map". Dsa.csupomona.edu. 2009-09-24. Retrieved 2010-04-30.
  15. ^ "Rideshare Home". Dsa.csupomona.edu. Retrieved 2010-04-30.

Impaction[edit]

Someone added a bunch of majors in the College of Science to the impacted list. I have added a "citation needed" tag. Please explain your source or will delete in a few days. I believe the list of impacted majors doesn't come out until the fall quarter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.193.43.254 (talk) 20:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Endowment[edit]

President Ortiz is touting the $95 million already raised for the capital campaign. Is this an official enough number for the size of the endowment?

http://www.csupomona.edu/~annualreport/highlights.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.131.7 (talk) 20:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

No. That is money raised for the current campaign and is separate from what is in the institution's endowment. Typically, capital campaigns already have established goals and intentions for the money being raised. Often some of the money is intended for the endowment but there is no guarantee. ElKevbo (talk) 00:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism by Marco Guzman, Jr[edit]

Marco Guzman, Jr keeps adding unsoured promo materials to all California State Polytechnic University, Pomona articles, lowering their quality. Sometimes the sources don't agree with the content. I just fixed the CalPoly engineering college article. Please keep an eye on this user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rankingupdater (talkcontribs) 20:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes keep an eye on me! Also worth mentioning, this user is under investigation for was found to be engaging in sock-puppetry: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk  20:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Princeton Review[edit]

Two editors have been edit warring over a sentence mentioning a Princeton Review ranking. I don't have a strong opinion on the subject but I don't quite understand the statement that says only that the university was included in the ranking. It doesn't seem to make any sense without specifying where the university was ranked e.g. 29th, in the third tier. ElKevbo (talk) 05:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

It's a list of the "best" 298 colleges. The Princeton Review only ranks 1 through 5, thereafter the rest are simply just placed on the list, not in any order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwatch310 (talkcontribs) 00:19, April 13, 2013‎
Then please clarify that in the article instead of edit warring. ElKevbo (talk) 06:05, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
It was stated the university was placed on the list for 2013, which is clarifying. For further clarification, I supposed it can be said the list isn't ranked.

Edit request on 25 June 2013[edit]

i-Poly high school is now housed in a permanent building. http://www.ipolyhighschool.org/pages/International_Polytechnic_High/ABOUT_US/New_Building


original wikipedia page excerpt: Cal Poly operates the International Polytechnic High School, a college preparatory high school housed entirely in portable buildings which stand on what used to be a parking lot.

proposed edit: Cal Poly operates the International Polytechnic High School, a college preparatory high school. Originally housed entirely in portable buildings in parking lot K, the school is now housed in a $20 million, state-of-the art, facility opened in the fall of 2012 at the cross street of University Drive and Temple Avenue on the campus of Cal Poly.

Petriekituu (talk) 21:30, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: I edited the article to remove the references to portable buildings, but your proposed text includes too many peacock terms and so I did not include it as proposed. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Grammar Error[edit]

Unfortunately I can't edit the page, so I'll have to bring this small issue to the talk page (sorry!). In the brief abstract of the university, the following sentence appears:

"The university is consistently recognized as one the best value colleges in all of America."

Should be changed to:

The university is consistently recognized as one of the best value colleges in all of America.

A trivial edit, which I hope someone can clear up as soon as possible. Only to maintain the quality that Wikipedia deserves, especially since this page is (relatively) frequently visited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightpuma (talkcontribs) 03:52, September 14, 2013‎

The whole statement was poorly-supported, uninformative, and self-serving so I removed it. ElKevbo (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Here's the dirt[edit]

Controversies:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150403/12161730541/student-sues-college-after-campus-cops-demand-he-get-free-speech-permit-before-handing-out-fliers.shtml

178.38.97.168 (talk) 01:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Lanterman Developmental Center acquisition[edit]

The state gave Lanterman Developmental Center to the school. that's an additional 300 acres + buildings added 172.249.18.129 (talk) 02:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Campus south[edit]

since the school decided to keep the property and has started to put signs of the lanterman property as campus south[1], can we now add the 300 acres to the total size of the campus?108.184.120.44 (talk) 10:50, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Domain name change: csupomona.edu to cpp.edu[edit]

Someone linked me to the Cal Poly Universities Rose Float page, but I noticed that all the links in the table of past floats to csupomona.edu were dead. A little searching indicated that they were now available in the cpp.edu domain instead - the rest of the URL (the directory structure on the University's site) was the same.

Educause's WHOIS currently has nothing for csupomona.edu , so I suspect the change to cpp.edu is meant to be permanent. (Why didn't they keep csupomona and have it redirect? I dunno.) The WHOIS says that cpp.edu started on 23 July 2014.

I did a mass search-and-replace on the Rose Float page, but I figured I'd note it here, for future reference. I looked to see if Wikipedia has a bot to take care of things like this automatically and it doesn't seem to, although I didn't look everywhere.

73.217.216.189 (talk) 09:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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Edit Request for UET[edit]

The section about the UET (University Educational Trust) should be removed or updated. As of January 2012, the UET closed and its assets transferred to the Cal Poly Pomona Foundation. This is according to January 2012 board meeting of the Cal Poly Pomona Foundation. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:DF:8000:442C:0:2:AB13:A5C2 (talk)

References

 Done The board meeting minutes regarding this closure which have been quoted and added to the Wikipedia article were from 2011, not 2012.  Spintendo      19:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Follow up request for edit: Request for a new section about the Cal Poly Pomona Foundation. It is the auxiliary organization that supports the university, including the bookstore, dining, housing and accepting philanthropic donations. About the Foundation is here [1] and here [2]

incidents on campus[edit]

why is there no mentioned of the people who have been killed on campus. traffic is a problem and of my knowledge has managed to have two people killed in such manner. Also what about the campus south murder?