Talk:Caracas drone attack

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CNN article 14 march[edit]

Detalles exclusivos del plan para asesinar a Maduro con drones en agosto (English version). emijrp (talk) 20:59, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Emijrp: could you explain what you find of interest in this source, so that information can be added correctly to the article? I am not seeing anything new; we already know people have been forced to make videos. We have Juan Resequens, as an example. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Are you alleging that CNN fabricated the videos? That statement needs a reference. emijrp (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Emijrp, you have not answered the question. What information do you believe is new in this report, so that we can understand why you want it added and what content you want added? We have an unnamed source, and a video-- not uncommon. We also have videos that Requesens was forced to be in. What content do you want added, and do you have any indication that any other reliable source has picked up this information or finds it to be credible? Please provide so we can gauge WP:DUE. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Emijrp:, you are adding duplicate and non-reliable sources; please discuss your edits on talk. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:44, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

  1. Correo del Orinoco (2009) is not a third-party, independent source.[1] It is no more reliable than Telesur.
  2. La Sexta gives no indication of reliability; please explain why you think it is.[2]
  3. El Tiempo is an exact copy of El Comercio.[3]
  4. gives no indication of reliability; please explain why you believe it meets WP:RS.[4]
In summary, you have now added citation overkill, with six or so low-quality sources that do nothing more than repeat what CNN said. What is of interest, still, is what important information you believe is added or needs to be added to the article per CNN. That is, an anonymous source, on one of many videos, saying the same thing as has been claimed before, adds what? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
It adds weight to the statement that it was a real attempt to kill Maduro and not a false flag operation. You asked for other media picking the CNN story, and I added them. Now, there is citation overkill. Your behaviour is erratic. We don't have to wait the pro-opposition media to accept the truth, before we can add the info to the article. emijrp (talk) 21:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
How does an anonymous source saying the same things that have been said before add weight? More specifically, what text in the article changes as a result of this source? Please take care in personalizing discussions and labeling other people's "behavior". SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

False Flag Attack, seriously?[edit]

Why are baseless conspiracy theorist speculations being added to the top of the article? Do lead Wikipedians really support another war where innocent people on both sides have to die to fulfill someone's political interest? 2603:3027:F25:0:D8E0:2AB6:13F0:CD64 (talk) 23:35, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM --Jamez42 (talk) 08:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

BLP vios[edit]

No matter what one thinks of them, Arreaza and Rodriguez are living persons, and we must use BLP-quality sources when making allegations. Caracas Chronicles is a group blog. Not only is it a blog, it has a bias (x 2: anti-Chavismo and anti-Trump), and it makes mistakes. There are BLP vios: [5] The rest of the CC sources need to be replaced. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:30, 15 March 2019 (UTC)