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Vandalism? or simply plain crazy?[edit]

The following phrase is absurd, dunno if it was intentional or just a lapse (all islands are enclosed by the sea!):

"its islands (most of which are enclosed by the sea)," Vae victis (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

By "the sea" was meant "by the Caribbean Sea". I think that passage is absurd for the opposite reason: many of the Caribbean islands are bordered on one side by the Caribbean and on the other side by the Atlantic. I'll remove the passage. Duoduoduo (talk) 17:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Present-day island territories[edit]

Hello everybody, the Caribbean is a body of water not a group of islands. It is not a region. The West Indies are a group of island and not the same as the Caribbean. The Bahamas and Turks are in the West Indies but NOT the Caribbean. Caribbean countries include all those bordering it from Venezuela around through the Mexican Yucatan and across the South shore of Cuba across the South coasts of Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and South to Trinidad. Some Islands and some mainland. Where did our schools go wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.170.45 (talk) 00:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

On Present-day island territories, shouldn't Sint Marrten be removed, as it is still part of Netherlands Antilles? That would also make it's accompanying note, that it is part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (implies in it's own right), incorrect? ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yipyapyup (talkcontribs) 23:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and Curacao too. I'll remove them. If someone has a reason why they should be re-added, please put it here. Papercrab (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I think Guyana should be remove from the list because it is no island. Besides it is not in the list of islands in the Caribbean. 212.77.163.106 (talk) 11:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

There Are Some Bad Conclusions Here[edit]

Some how the Caribbean Sea has been equated with the West Indies. They have a lot of similar traits and attributes but they are not synonyms.

The Caribbean Sea is a body of water that is contained in the oblong circle that goes from the North East tip of the Yucatan across the Southern boundaries of Cuba, Hispaniola, Puerto Rico and the British Virgin Islands. It then turns South at the Lesser Antilles past Trinidad to Venezuela across to Panama and back up to the Yucatan. The Bahamas, Turks and Caicos and Bermuda are not in the Caribbean.

The West Indies include the islands in the Caribbean from Cuba East and South to Trinidad and The Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos but not Bermuda.

It is all just simple geography and does not consider culture, trade relations or politics. It is not a hard concept to grasp. Is it?

Maybe we could include New York City. There are more Puerto Ricans in New York City than Puerto Rico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranchodepato (talkcontribs) 01:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

what about Cauraco not included as a island why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.40.113 (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

El Caribe?[edit]

Spanish Wikipedia has "El Caribe" redirecting to "Antillas". Shouldn't "El Caribe" be redirect to "Caribe"? --EarthFurst (talk) 08:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Bajo Nuevo and Serranilla[edit]

Bajo Nuevo and Serranilla Banks were previously listed as territories of the United States in this template. Whatever U.S. government sources lists them as so is irrelevant until you can establish that the U.S. actually has these banks under its control. The Colombian government lists them as being part of the San Andres Department, so if we're adding random territories where actual control doesn't matter, then a whole list of other territorial claims have to be added aswell.

Unless an editor can find confirmation from an indisputable source, de facto jurisdiction over these banks will remain unconfirmed, and this template should reflect that. If you want this changed--you first need to have your sourced claim accepted on the Bajo Nuevo Bank and Serranilla Bank pages. Rennell435 (talk) 04:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Largest cities[edit]

Since July 2009, there is a list of "Largest cities" in the infobox. However, this seems more to be a list of capitals/comparable centres, ordered by size. If really a list of all the largest Caribbean cities were intended, then some other larger cities from the largest islands should be included, above some smaller capitals. E. g. Santiago de Cuba should thus get into the list (just below San Juan, I suppose); and Oraniestad might drop out of the list altogether, if the list is not made considerably longer.

There are two possible remedies: Either to change the content of the list, to include e.g. all the cities with at least 100,000 inhabitants, or to change the title of the list to Capitals and administrative centres or something similar. In the second case, the list might have to be completed with a few more capitals. JoergenB (talk) 17:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The infobox isn't a good place for a long list anyway. We should probably limit it to the top 5 cities. If there's a consensus for a longer list, that should go in the body of the article. - BilCat (talk) 20:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Largest Cities: Port-of-Spain[edit]

Can someone please explain to me how Port-of-Spain is one of the largest Caribbean cities if it only has a population of just 49,000. The are PLENTY cities in the caribbean with a much larger population than that such as Guantánamo, Punta Cana, Nassau, etc. So as you can see, Port of Spain is not one of the largest cities in the caribbean; it might be one of the most developed though, but nevertheless development of the city should not be confused with it's actual population. - Uniongreen (talk) 06:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC-5)

No History Section?[edit]

I just realised that this article has no history section, though there is a History of the Caribbean article. Anyone care to help me summarise that article in a section of this one? ~ Hairouna (talk) 23:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Possibly because it's a region of the world and not really a specific spot; more geographical, in other words. How would you present the history of a region of the world that already has history of islands and countries? Lhb1239 (talk) 04:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
The Caribbean region has a shared history of colonial jockeying, slavery, trade, etc. I think someone who knows that history well could put in a good history section. Duoduoduo (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Spelling[edit]

The vast majority of English language speakers in North America use American English. American English should be used for all Wikipedia articles related to North America, including Central America and the Caribbean, except as follows:

Yours aye,  Buaidh  17:47, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The Cayman Islands are a British Commonwealth, ergo, the article should reflect British English, not American English. Lhb1239 (talk) 02:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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Bad Info[edit]

For some reason, it's stated that the sun rises throughout the Caribbean at 3-5 A.M. EST... Well I live in St. Lucia (quite close to the equator) and we usually don't see the sun until 6 or so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.192.227.90 (talk) 02:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Removed. It rises around 6am in Dominican Republic. Materialscientist (talk) 06:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
When the sun rises depends not only on where you are in the Caribbean but also on the time of year. That's true everywhere but along the equator. The Caribbean day is a good bit shorter when the sun is over the Tropic of Capricorn than when it is directly over the Caribbean. However, the seasonal variation in the length of the day is less in the tropics than in the temperate zone. Duoduoduo (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

West Indies[edit]

Seems that the Entymology section should explain where "West Indies" comes from. If you have a source that explains it, please do. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Wrong image[edit]

Uruguayan schoolchildren.jpg

There is a picture with the caption "Cuban school children" but the picture is named "Venezuelan schoolchildren.jpg" maybe this picture should be removed since Venezuela is not part of the Caribbean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.71.24.1 (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Not only that, but there's a sign in the photo that says "Uru[...]", which could mean that it's Uruguay... which would be hilarious. 67.173.231.164 (talk) 11:01, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

That is exactly what the sign means. I have removed the image from this article. Someone should see about renaming the picture. --Khajidha (talk) 00:40, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Etymology for “West Indies” missing[edit]

Since West Indies redirects here, the Etymology section should describe the origin of the term West Indies. — Timwi (talk) 23:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

topik[edit]

Bold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.227.137.14 (talk) 18:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Snow in Puerto Rico[edit]

Does anyone have a source that says that it has snowed in Puerto Rico? Because I am pretty sure it has ever snowed here in Puerto Rico. If I am right this is false information and it should be taken out of the page.Rebelplutarch (talk) 01:19, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Can someone please connect this article to the Somali page[edit]

Hi there, there is a Somali Wikipedia version of the "Caribbean" page. I tried to connect it to English and every other language, but failed to do so. Can someone please connect it? The Somali article can be found here Kaaribiyaan.
Thanks
Ismail Suge (talk) 21:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - BilCat (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)