Talk:Carnival of Light

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George Harrison/George Martin[edit]

I did some research, and I think it's George Harrison who rejected putting "Carnival Of Light" on Anthology 2 because in that Paul McCartney interview, he mentioned George saying "Avant garde a clue". I went on a site called and looked at the page for "Electronic Sound" (The 1969 experimental album that Harrison recorded) and it mentioned George Harrison saying that same quote in the McCartney interview.

So I believe George Harrison didn't let to song go on the compilation. -- (talk) 01:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I know this is off topic, but I can just hear George saying "Avant Garde a clue", you sort of need to say it in Georges slow nasal scouse to make it work, to get even further off topic to the Beatles accents in general, I am a Scouser myself, and I could never understand whay they spoke like they did. I thought that maybe the accent had changed since the 60's, but it's now my firm belief that they had modified their accents, either from pressure to conform to snooty 60's attitude about reginal accents, or maybe so they could be understood. To back this view up go and listen to Serve Yourself, which John made very late on in his life in 1980, in that recording he can be heard to speak and exhibts a very strong Scouse accent and even says la, the first time I heard it I actually thought it was Lilly Savage.

Yakacm (talk) 12:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The Avant Garde Clue comment was added as a sleeve note to Electronic Sound (1969), and was therefore being recalled later. He presumably didn't say it again in relation to Carnival of Light. The original note says something like "Some people call this Avant Garde but I say Avant Garde Clue". —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Potential Release?[edit]

[1] Perhaps the track will finally see the light of the day. --Brownings (talk) 04:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

This is perhaps no longer: [2]. It's time to make some changes. QuidProQuo23 01:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
If you read the article, it has already been changed. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

January 5, 2009?[edit]

It says in the article it is to be realeased on January 5, 2009, although this has no citation. I have looked and found no reliable source confirming this date, only rumors. Please find a source for this or rmove it from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Billy Bogart comment[edit]

I suggest the following: Tag the information you believe untrue with {{fact}}. If there is a good source for what you say about your interpretation, then provide the source. I'm not personally doubting you, but you are going about correcting the text in the wrong way. (John User:Jwy talk) 00:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


Copied from the article page. More appropriately discussed here. Originally inserted by User:Billybogart:

This information regarding "fake versions" of Carnival of Light is entirely untrue. Being the creator of arguably the most famous version I know how my "interpretation" of Carnival of Light was created. I did not use actual samples from any Beatles track(s). To suggest that I did is an opinion based upon pure ignorance. Instead I borrowed from the Beatles the "mood of the times" and certain mathematical elements. My track was carefully and painstakingly crafted into a digestible sonic view of something that might as well never existed. That is to say the cult like passion that follows the unreleased Beatles track has turned it into something it is not. My "interpretation" on further supports before the pin is pressed. When the so called "real version" is finally released most people are going to be quite disappointed. However at least I provided them with a more interesting alternative before reality meets life's pane of glass. That was my my purpose from the start and my point in the end.

Billy Bogart

(John User:Jwy talk) 18:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


with the title: The section above (unreleased status) contains false information The Beatles' Carnival of Light does not appear on a Russian Bootleg called "Now and Then". What appears on that is a mixture of various songs called "Carnival of Light". I know this because I created part of the 13 minutes and 48 seconds that appear on that bootleg. However I did not authorize anyone to reproduce or remix my song. Here is a clip of the full version of my song. [1] My track was created November 16th 2008 and placed on my Youtube channel Billybogartshow and became quite popular. Some time in early to mid 2009 it was stolen by various people and distributed without my permission through file sharing sites. Billybogart (talk) 22:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

(John User:Jwy talk) 00:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Why hasn't it been released?[edit]

Why did George block it for Anthology? What's the problem with releasing it now? Why does everyone bar Paul seem to be uneasy about it? Can anyone add in some context for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

George Harrison apparently blocked it because he didn't like avant garde music. It was going to be included on the Beatles Anthology 2 album.

Piano painter[edit]

I've always read that it was Dudley Edwards who painted the psychedelic piano. This web page (of unknown authority) agrees, but I don't know what Edwards looks/looked like so can't verify it's him in the photos. Does anyone have a source to argue that it actually was Vaughan? If there is no source to say so, I will remove the claim from the article. matt (talk) 11:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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