Talk:Caroline Lacroix

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Good articleCaroline Lacroix has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 3, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 15, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Leopold II's mistress Caroline Delacroix was so loathed by the Belgian public that on one occasion, her carriage was stoned in Brussels?

Trustworthy sources ?[edit]

Sources named (for instance saying that Caroline was a prostitute) are mostly English-speaking and opposed to Leopold's venture in the Congo. They are hardly neutral. Hochschild (not an historian) assertions about the Congo has been attacked and rebutted by Jean Stengers (an historian). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.217.83 (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


GAN problem[edit]

The leading paragraph is too long, it needs to be broken up into separate paragraphs for easier reading. Apart from this problem, it's an interesting, well-written article backed with lots of sources. Nice job, Ruby!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) I'll work on the lead today. Ruby2010 (talk) 17:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Caroline's son Lucien[edit]

The article states that Lucien married, but does he have descendants who are living today? The article should mention whether or not he had children.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All I have seen is that he married. Later today, I'll do some further research and see if he had children. Ruby2010 (talk) 17:09, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at various websites ([1] [2] [3]) and none of them say whether or not Lucien had issue. Consequently, I won't even mention if he had children or not, just to be safe. There was another article I created (Jeanne Bonaparte) where I stated she had no children, only to find out later she had at least four! Ruby2010 (talk) 05:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would be the best thing to do. Later, if you discover whether he had any or not, they can be mentioned.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

The article should state in the lead what nationality she was. I'm a bit confused over this. Was she Belgian, Romanian, or French? She has a category which says People from Bucharest, therefore it needs to be in the lead that she was Romanian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that she was born in Bucharest to French parents, and moved back to Paris at a young age. So technically she was Romanian and French. I'll find a way to put that in the lead. Ruby2010 (talk) 16:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this looks much better. Once again, I must compliment you on the fine article you created and wrote! It deserves a GA class.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Good luck with your own article's GA review (Sibyl de Neufmarché). It looks really good. Ruby2010 (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think I should move the postcard shown in the infobox to somewhere in the article body? That way it would look larger. If I did that, the infobox would have no image unfortunately. What do you think? Ruby2010 (talk) 22:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the postcard image should stay in the infobox until another image of Caroline, preferably on her own, becomes available. A GA class article looks better with an image in the infobox. I'm glad you like the Sibyl de Neufmarché article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Caroline Lacroix/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk) 13:15, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Comments[edit]

  1. This is the easiest GAN I've ever reviewed. Excellent article, very well-written and well researched, great illustrations, beautiful prose. Great work! It's my pleasure to award Good Article status without any changes needed. -- Lemurbaby (talk) 13:40, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]