Talk:Carolingian Empire

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The opening paragraph should state the span of time for this empire. Even reading the article, I'm not sure whether the historiographic term starts with Charles Martel or Charlemagne, and whether it ends with the death of Charles the Fat in 888, or with the division of the empire in 911, or with the end of rule of the Carolingian Dynasty 987 altogether (see Carolingian Dynasty).--Atkinson (talk) 08:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

bad English[edit]

"Lothar retired Italy to his eldest son Louis II in 844". Re-check your source and work with a good teacher who knows English well to get this right. (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)