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Jonkvrouw van Amsberg?
- Because as far as I know, the title is only inherited in the male line. Regards, Daimanta 23:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Amsberg comes from their father's father though, so it is in the male line. Kings, queens, and princes/princesses don't need surnames. Looking at the Countess Eloise of Orange-Nassau page, it seems that Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg and the right to pass it down is something that is granted upon marriage. So, for example, when Prince Constantijn got married, a Royal Decree was issued that stated that his children would be Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg. In contrast, the Royal Decree issued when W-A got married said that his children would be HRH Prince/ss. When Princess C-A gets married, the Royal Decree will probably look a lot like the one issued for her parents' marriage. In contrast, when Princess Alexia gets married, a Royal Decree will probably be issued stating what surname(s) her children will use and likely giving her children the title count/countess and predicate jonkheer/jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, just like her uncle's children. Ariadne55 (talk) 01:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that depends. Alexia and Ariane's children might just have their father's surname (or a title, if either marries a fellow royal or noble). They probably can't, however, be Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, because that title passes through the male line, not the female line. Claus-Casimir can pass those titles to his children, but his sisters cannot. It is possible that Alexia and Ariane, as sisters of the future queen, will be treated the same way as Princess Margriet, and their children will be given the titles Prince/ss of Orange-Nassau, (insert surname here). The same did not happen for Princess Christina, I think, because she married a Catholic. Alexia and Ariane's children may well not even get titles unless their spouses are Dutch, as happened with Margriet, but not Christina. Irene's husband was royal, so there was no need for additional titles. Anything is possible, but I don't think Alexia and Ariane's children will be made Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, because that is the girls' paternal surname; their will take their father's surname, so they could very well be created Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Something, just not van Amsberg. Morhange (talk) 04:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- → https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stb-2002-41.pdf . YF, LeoDavid (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
She isn't. So probably that is why! The Dutch Royal Family (see their website: www.koninklijkhuis.nl) has NEVER referred to here as being the Hereditary Princess of Orange (nor as Hereditary Prince of Orange to the current Prince of Orange, before his mother became Queen). The latest official appearance of 'the hereditary prince of orange' was in the 19th century. Afterwards, the use was discontinued. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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