Talk:Catherine Doherty

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Cyrillic version of maiden name?[edit]

Since Catherine Doherty was born and raised in Russia, would a fluent Russian speaker please add the Russian version of her maiden name, Ekaterina Fyodorovna Kolyshchkina [? it is transliterated into Latin letters as "Kolyschkine"], in Cyrillic print?

Also, since her first husband, Boris de Hueck, was also Russian-born, it might be good to include the Cyrillic version of his name as well. According to Lorene Hanley Duquin's They Called Her the Baroness, the name of Boris' father was Guido de Hueck. So the name and patronymic of Catherine Doherty's first husband was Boris Guidovich? Rather odd patronymic!

Many thanks! — Diamantina 03:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that there are a lot of different ways that Russian names can be converted into English spelling, but it seems like we should stick to the way that Catherine herself spelled her maiden name, which is "Kolyschkine" (cf. her autobiography, Fragments of My Life.) Having the name presented in Cyrillic print would clarify it in the academic sense anyway. -- Mecandes 22:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added the Russian spelling of her name. Technically, if we were to romanize her surname per WP:RUS, it would come out as Kolyshkina (Колышкина). The WP:RUS method is probably the most phonetically correct romanization possible using only English letters and, therefore, the one most often used on English Wikipedia. Note that there is no reason for the "shch" sound in her name since there is no letter щ (the letter ш makes the "sh" sound). Her father's name would be Фёдор Колышкин Feodor [Theodore] Kolyshkin, and her mother would be Эмма Колышкина Emma Kolyshkina. The reason the feminine version of the last name has an "a" at the end is due to the grammatical gender of the Russian language. --71.121.211.26 (talk) 01:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two thinks don't hold up well for me, first she was married to her first cousin, which is even more strictly banned in the Russian Orthodox Church than in the Roman Catholic Church, which actually does permit it rarely. Also, why did it take over 20 years after she left the Orthodox Church for Roman Catholicism for her to receive a Roman Catholic "annulment" of her first marriage to her first cousin? Either Rome was REALLY slow on this or something else was wrong since this was a first cousin union. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.138.231 (talk) 01:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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