Talk:Central Railroad of New Jersey
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The text of the article has an awful lot of links, which impairs reading (at least mine). I removed repeated links within the text, but it still seems cluttered. I have a couple of ideas:
- I think it would be prudent to remove the dates from the article; except for the really important dates (the date of the charter and the date of merger into Conrail, for instance), I think that it is in most cases sufficient to leave just the year, rather than the month and day.
- Why are the "History" and "Corporate History" sections separate? Would it make a better read if they are merged?
- There are only two sources cited within the article. Is it better to add more websites with corroborating information? I am not an expert on the CNJ, but I have the following texts, any of which contains plenty of information on the road:
- Encyclopedia of New Jersey by Maxine Lurie and Marc Mappen (Rutgers UP, 2004)
- New Jersey's Multiple Municipal Madness by Alan Karcher (Rutgers UP, 1998), which includes info on the wars between the PRR and the CNJ.
- The Images of America series books on Bayonne, Jersey City (both original and the 1940-1960 collection), Hoboken, Railroads of Hoboken and Jersey City, Henry Hudson Trail (the former CNJ Seashore Branch), and Steam to Diesel in New Jersey.
- Four of the Pennisi Northeast Railroad Scene books, on the Lehigh & Hudson River RR, Reading Company, CNJ, and the Penn-Central.
- For what it is worth, I am also in possession of a map titled "Central Railroad Company of New Jersey, Map of System and Connecting Lines," dated 1944. I am less clear on how to cite this map, however.
Any input would be appreciated. --Runnerupnj 14:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Some thoughts...
- I'm less inclined to reduce the dates to just the years since I use that information in populating and maintaining the Anniversaries section of Portal:Trains, but I do see several instances in the text where a solitary year is linked (e.g. "Extensions took it west to [[Dunellen, New Jersey|Dunellen]] in [], just east of [[Bound Brook, New Jersey|Bound Brook]] in [] and the rest of the way to Somerville in []." could have all of the individual years delinked).
- I'd support merging the two history sections in a way that put all of the information in chronological order. The resulting History section could be subdivided into major "eras" of the railroad's history.
- This article definitely needs more inline citations for specific, verifiable facts. I generally try to list at least one inline citation per paragraph; if existing unreferenced text can be verified by the references you've got, then by all means add the references.
- If we want to move this article up through the quality chain, we will also need a few more images and a system map; we'll also need to prune the list of stations, probably to an article like List of stations on the Central Railroad of New Jersey. Slambo (Speak) 15:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- I merged the two history sections, and then divvied them up into three "eras." I have begun researching and editing the copy of the article, but before I add the content I want to make sure the text is cited properly.
- I have added the stations that were formerly included in the main article to the List of stations on the Central Railroad of New Jersey that you pointed to. I also used that 1944 map to add the stations from branch lines. I will continue to fill in the table, but citing it will be very time-consuming.
- I don't see a high-quality image from the LoC like the one from PRR article. The map I have a physical copy of is similar to this map from the Rutgers Mapmaker archive (928kb jpg). That image carries a Rutgers watermark, however, and I am unsure of any map's copyright status. The company effectively went under 30 years ago, but I don't know what intellectual property transferred over to Conrail, how long those rights last etc. WikiProject Maps doesn't mention copyrights and Wikipedia:Copyrights doesn't mention maps. Are there any standards on this issue?
- --Runnerupnj 14:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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