Talk:Central Time Zone
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- 1 SPECIFY NORTH AMERICA
- 2 Nunavut not a Province
- 3 Indiana
- 4 The "POV Map"
- 5 Broadcasting concerns
- 6 Further broadcasting concerns
- 7 Mountain time zone
- 8 uncited lines removed
- 9 Chihuahua
- 10 Name change
- 11 To merge or not to merge
- 12 Requested move 1
- 13 Omission of Montana from both central and mountain time zones
- 14 Quote statute with cite, second Sunday of March, first Sunday of November
- 15 WikiProject Canada?
- 16 Clarification on what North America means
- 17 CST – Central Standard Time
- 18 Requested move 2
- 19 "Saskatchewan Time" is not "Daylight Savings Time"...
SPECIFY NORTH AMERICA
I thought it was erroneous to list Nunavut among the list of Canadian Provinces that are under Central Time Zone and another time zone. Nunavut is a territory, not a province.
Coverage of U.S. States
I thought that to describe that part of Texas in the Central Time Zone as "eastern" and that portion of Michigan as "western" would be accurate but misleading. So I have taken out the second division in the list of states at least partly covered by the Central Time Zone. They are now listed as entirely covered or portions covered. --Acjelen 21:59, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The "POV Map"
Granted, the map only includes the United States, but does that really disqualify its inclusion in this article? --Feitclub 20:27, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- I never thought the map was ideal, but it was better than nothing. I would be in favour of a map that includes Canada as well, given the context of these time-zone articles are primarily English-speaking areas of North America, although to be entirely fair a map that extends through Central America would be proper. -Alexwcovington (talk) 07:44, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It sounds acceptable to me that programming is aired simultaneously in the Eastern and Central zones, but how do the Mountain and Pacific time zones address the problems? Do they use tape delays like they do in Australia? Scott Gall 13:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- When I was visting Salt Lake City, they tape delayed prime time one hour to start at 7 MST. (I assume this applies in the rest of the MST, possibly excepting Arizona.) I lived in CA for several years growing up. For the Pacific Timezone, programs are tape delayed three hours so that prime time starts at 8 PST. Jon 18:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- When the rest of the country is observing Daylight Saving Time, are broadcast schedules in Arizona tape-delayed 2 hours (as they are on MST all year round) or 3 hours (as they are synchronized with PDT?) Scott Gall 03:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC) PS: And before Indiana observed DST, were programs tape-delayed during the summer period (as they used EST during the winter) or not (as CDT was used during the summer?) And what do Alaska and Hawaii do about the timezone problem?
- I'd sugest checking the Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii pages and if you don't find anything there post in decussion; they'd be more knowledgeable there. As to Indiana, the last one or two years before that change it was a big mess. Some stations treated Indiana during the summer as being on CDT (and thus no tape delay) while others tape delayed everything an hour in the summer so that primetime would start at 8 PM all year round. (Special events such as live sporting excluded). Like everything else related to time in Indiana this was highly controversal, early risers tended to prefered no tape delay and late risers tended to prefer the tape delay. Also, since the change, sporting events broadcasted on national TV from the Indianapolis area during the summer start an hour later locally to keep the event at the same time for the rest of the country. 22.214.171.124 15:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Further broadcasting concerns
Everyone assumes it was because of structural issues that eastern and central were broadcast simultaneously. Do we have a more specific reason? Do we have a source? [unknown user]
- It's probably true, but a better explanation is necessary. [unknown user]
- Yes; there's quite a few US TV & Radio markets split between Eastern & Central Timezones. Most significantly, Tallahassee, FL, Chatt. TN, Lexington, KY, and Louisville, KY are all just east of the Central-East timezone divide and have first ring suburbs in the Central timezone. Jon 19:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- There's actualy an additional reason at this point to keep it this way; normal work hours appear to start and end an hour later local in the Eastern timezone compared to Central, perhaps a response to the one hour difference in prime time. (Comparision is between Memphis / Nashville / St Louis / Chicago on Central and Atlanta & New York on Eastern.) Still we need a sources to include that. Jon 17:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Mountain time zone
The article states that all of Texas is in the central time zone which is not the case. My hometown El Paso is in the Mountain time zone  also looked up Kentucky  which is .--Dakota 02:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
uncited lines removed
"Phenix City, Alabama, and the surrounding countryside, while officially in Central Time, observe Eastern Time because of close ties to Columbus, Georgia. The town of Kenton, Oklahoma, although residing in the Central Time Zone, observes Mountain Time." In addition to a lack of citiation; this would appear (if local govt agencyies actually sets the clock those ways; private citizens can set their clocks however they wish) to be in violation of the federal law regarding the setting of time zones. Jon 22:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I happen to know for a fact that Phenix City Alabama DOES NOT observe central time and is infact in the central time zone therefore it is also inaccurate to state that ALL of the Alabama is in the central time zone... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starnexus (talk • contribs) 07:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Phenix City and Kenton lack the statutory authority to decide what time it is (the latter isn't even an incorporated town). Time Zones are defined at the USGOV level: 15 USC 260 et. seq., . In fact, 15 USC 265 specifically orders the Secretary of Transporation to put the CT/MT line along the western border of OK and TX (with a subsequent exception for El Paso and Hudspeth Counties ), and authorizes various railroads to use stations in NM as the demarcation point between the zones. I'm taking out these local "exceptions" that have not been approved by USDOT, but may throw in a paragraph mentioning some of them and their unofficial status. The Monster (talk) 03:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I just want to mention that the Mexican state of Chihuahua does not belong to this time zone; it belongs to UTC-7. Would someone please change that. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mauri.carrasco (talk • contribs) 00:17, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
- Note that the reference links to text and pdf's in reference table 1 are broken; result is "permission denied" on the server it refers to. references should be updated or removed. thanks
Currently the name is Central Time Zone (Americas). This name is appropriate as a redirect to UTC−06. This article shoud be named Central Time Zone (North America). For example Easter Island has daylight time at the opposite seasons that the regions shown in this article have. Esmito (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Changed. Esmito (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Time Zone name applies to whole region 
- This is not true. Eastern Island is not even in the Americas. The name Central Time Zone is a year round abbreviation of CST/CDT. If the time zone name applied to the whole region then UTC−06 would not exist. It's either the merge of Central Time Zone (Americas) into UTC−06 or the name change to Central Time Zone (North America). Esmito (talk) 22:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
North America itself has more than one rule, depending on the country
- Then name the article "Central Time Zone (United States and Canada)" and delete everything Mexican. This or the merging into UTC−06. Esmito (talk) 22:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
To merge or not to merge
Either this article is about UTC−06 and then it should be merged there, or it is about CST/CDT. In the latter case Central American countries don't belong here. Esmito (talk) 23:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- They do belong here, in the English usage, Central America is included as part of North America, and I'm agree it should be renamed as Central Time Zone (North America), excluding Oceanian and South American regions. --Jcmenal (talk) 23:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I see your point, article should be renamed as Central Time Zone (North America), Central American and other regions removed, due just Canada, United States and Mexico use CST/CDT. --Jcmenal (talk) 23:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
This article is about CST a time zone of Mexico, Canada and the US, so it should be renamed to North America. Central American countries do not belong here. AlexCovarrubias ( Talk? ) 01:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunatley, not only was the first move reverted, you misspelled it in your move attmpt: there is no "North Americas", just one! You need to initiate a formal move discussion, and try to gain a consensus for your prefered (and correct) title first. Failurs to do this can result in a loss of editing priviliges by a block. Also, since you moved the page to a misspelling, it can now only be moved to the correct spelling by an administrator, who will want to see a consensu first. - BilCat (talk) 04:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Requested move 1
Omission of Montana from both central and mountain time zones
Hello I realize the writer(s) are very busy, but they appear to have omitted Montana from both the Central and Mountain times zones, which I suspect makes Montanans feel they aren't part of the fifty states, which reminded me of a friend whose cell phone service claimed all fifty states, but didn't include Montana for some reason...
I hope this can be remedied soon,
Quote statute with cite, second Sunday of March, first Sunday of November
... During the period commencing at 2 o’clock antemeridian on the second Sunday of March of each year and ending at 2 o’clock antemeridian on the first Sunday of November of each year ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdncntx (talk • contribs) 18:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
It seems strange that this page is part of WikiProject Canada but not part of WikiProject United States or WikiProject Mexico. Should we consider removing the WikiProject Canada tag? Guy Macon (talk) 22:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Clarification on what North America means
For those who are more concerned with land masses than with culture, the term North America refers to the entire northern half of The Americas. This is without prejudice to whether the Central American countries (or Mexico) should be considered part of North America - which is really a cultural question.
I recognize that the Spanish word norteamericano refers only to people from the US and Canada, and specifically excludes Mexico (according to my Pimsleur Spanish tapes). But this is the English Wikipedia.
CST – Central Standard Time
I found, CST stands for Central Standard Time
But THIS is NOT in the article (! ?why?) www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/... • Information about the time zone abbreviation CST – Central Standard Time • --126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Requested move 2
"Saskatchewan Time" is not "Daylight Savings Time"...
In the last paragraph of the "Canada" section, it's stated that "most of the province of Saskatchewan is on Central Standard Time year round." The next sentence is contradictory. "it is effectively on DST year round."
As someone who lives in Saskatchewan, I can attest to the fact that in the winter we share the same time as Manitoba (Central Standard Time) but then in the summer we don't change, and are still using Central Standard Time. I suppose since we share time with Alberta in the summer one could also say that we're effectively on Mountain Daylight Time year round, as the two are effectively the same; however, we don't observe Daylight Savings Time at all, so I believe the latter to be inaccurate. I don't believe the second sentence I quoted serves any purpose in this article, and if there are no objections, I'd like to remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- United States Code, Title 15, Chapter 6, Subchapter IX § 260a. Advancement of time or changeover dates http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_Code/Title_15/Chapter_6/Subchapter_IX