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Tocharian has no centum sound change, explain.[edit]

Dbachmann, how does Tocharian not have centum sound change? The palatals become velars. Also, it is likely that none of the centum languages form a node and the same with the satem languages. So, how is it that Albanian is not a satem language , when the term satem now just describes languages which have fricatives or affricates from the PIE palatals. There are no IE subgroups of Centum or Satem. Finally, I think you can keep the ad hominems to a minimum just because I didn't like your maps. Imperial78

Article rename proposal[edit]

An isogloss is specifically a [i]geographical[/i] boundary dividing areas on the basis of a linguistic feature.

Although the Centum-satem isogloss is an interesting and important topic related to the Centum-satem division in the Indo-European language family, this article A) is not mainly about the isogloss, but is instead about the Centum-satum division itself but B) is the only major article related to the Centum-satem division.

I propose that this article be renamed Centum-satum division and that a discussion of the isogloss be included as a small section within this article.

Ordinary Person (talk) 01:44, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Despite it now being three years old, I would support this proposal (or perhaps even better, call it centum and satem languages). W. P. Uzer (talk) 22:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Since there is no objection, I will do this latter move. If anyone in fact objects, we can discuss the best title. W. P. Uzer (talk) 09:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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Phonetic correspondences table -- should modern languages have modern or (reconstructed) historical forms in the table[edit]

I don't know as much about Armenian, but I'm not sure how to handle Albanian in the table (and Armenian obviously is going to have the same issue). I just cleaned up some stuff that was factually wrong (claimed palvelar k' went to th and then s, that's backwards). But should the table be showing the modern correspondences in Albanian (and Armenian) or what they are postulated to have been at the relevant time period as the other languages in the table? In the case of Albanian as per Orel it would have been /ts/ or /s/ in Early Albanian which overlaps with the Roman period, not th. Perhaps @Florian Blaschke: has an idea about this? --Yalens (talk) 21:11, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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