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Oh hey look, here it is again with the California wine drum beating. Now how'd I guess that it'd make it to every first-growth? For a discussion on this obvious slant, go to Talk:Château Haut-Brion. --BridgeBurner 06:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
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I'm fully aware of the two different label versions of the 1993 Mouton. However, this article states (without source) that ATF should have banned the nymphette, while I've read somewhere that the Château itself was worried about problems and bad reactions in the overly prude US of A, and therefore removed the drawing on their own initiative. It would be good if someone could source the correct version and update the article accordingly. In the meantime, I've -marked the statement. Tomas e (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Being located in a separate region doesn't matter much when it comes to including a less notable wine brand in the main article of the parent wine brand. See Domaine Drouhin which is in Oregon but is best served being included in the main article of Maison Joseph Drouhin in Burgundy. AgneCheese/Wine 04:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Support per the norm for marginally notable wine brands. There is no reason to delete the article and the content certainly won't be maginalized if it is merged here. If anything, it will reach a broader readership. AgneCheese/Wine 04:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
[formerly weak] Support. The current production of the vineyard is marketed as part of the Château Mouton Rothschild brand and is also written about in other sources as a label of that brand. No reason for us to separate what Château Mouton Rothschild has joined together. The reason why my "support" is "weak" is that the vineyard had an independent history before the Château Mouton Rothschild connection. If that history were notable, it would require a separate article ... but I haven't seen any evidence that it was. Andrew Dalby 13:39, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Good point and, truth be told, there is nothing about a merge that isn't reversible. If later reliable sources pop up that seem to indicate that there was some pre-Mouton notability for the estate then we can always split the brand out of the article. But currently, as noted, there really isn't any notability for the estate that is not directly linked to its connection to Mouton so a merge, for now, seems like the best course. AgneCheese/Wine 15:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
True, an article on the early history could be started later if needed. Hence I revised my opinion to "support". Andrew Dalby 09:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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