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Infobox done. --Easter Monkey 04:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

"The Chams are considered Malays and the language they speak is understood by the Malays."? No. those are just close languages. forgive my editing inexperience. I wish to add to the discussion, but don't know how. Here is what I would like to add:

My son is studying Cham in Vietnam this month and he states that Cham is closer to Hawaiian and Indian and Oceania. He states that the 2000 year old history dates back from the trade routes of India through the Asian peninsula. UNESCO has designated a site near Ho chi min city to study this dying language as of 2012. The Cham are not Muslim, but worship Buddha. Dave Paulson will get his doctorate degree in anthropology in 2015 for studying dying languages (Anthropology major at Temple Univ. in PA.), and his major is the Cham language. The Cham people were the instrumental helpers for the Americans in the Vietnam war. That is why the Vietnam do not like the Cham ppl. Their 2 languages have nothing in common. That is the contributing factor for why Cham is dying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpau0516 (talkcontribs) 00:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Cham Language[edit]

Is there no WP article on the Cham Language? I would like to see one. I'm not familiar enough with the language to write an original article, but if nobody else does it first, I can gleen some info from various sources and at least start a stub.--WilliamThweatt 23:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I created the Cham language article last week. Added language infobox and basic info as a stub. Currently working on brief sections describing history, dialects, phonology and grammar. Maybe somebody else will be able to eloborate once I get the rest of it up.--WilliamThweatt 15:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Cham is not closed to Indonesians or Malay[edit]

The Cham language have gone through considerable changes, it is now more simmiliar to Khmer and Vietnamese when heard becuase it is more monosyllabic or sesquillabic than a typical Malay language. Most Cham words changed from being polysyllabic to being clustered Monosyllabic. CanCanDuo 02:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

when classifying languages a distinction is made between similarities that are a result of actual historical links, and similarities that are a result of unrelated languages influencing each other. In the case of Cham, although its phonology and grammar might not be very similar to Malay now due to the influence of nearby Mon-Khmer languages, historical linguistics has shown that the two languages do share a distant common ancestor. That is what is meant by it being said to be a part of the Malayo-Polynesian language family. --Krsont 23:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Bani Islam[edit]

What is Bani Islam? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 07:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I have learned about history and culture of Vietnam and Bani Islam is syncretist religion of Sunni Islam, Hinduism, Theravada Buddhist, Aminism and Ancestor Worship! I have seen a mosque of Bani islam and it looks like a Therevada Buddhist pagoda but its inside is empty!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 14:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a source for "Bani Islam"? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Angelo.

I've lived In Cho Lon, too, long ago, in the 40s 50s. Now, as an old man ("Lao" or "Ong Gia") I've spent 6 months in a Cham Bani family of Tan Chau, by Chau Doc for a deeper work of anthropologist and political scientist. The result is a paper in French on the controversial Cham Bani Islam. I may send it to you, attached on an email My address is "takima01@sympatico.ca".

The main feature is matrilinearity with transgressions of Islam orthodoxy.

In politology, they are better set in Vietnam than native amerindians in Canada. Until now, there's been no way of forced assimilation and integration to the vast majority of "Kinh" ("Viet" from Cantonese "Yueh").Go to French Wiki: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royaume_du_Champ%C3%A2#Les_colonisations_du_Vi.C3.AAt_Nam_et_le_colonialisme_vietnamien

Takima (talk) 19:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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For more information, go on this site:

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf

Video on Cham Bani in Vietnamese with French translations and comments.

http://bangsacham.com/Videos.html

Takima (talk) 13:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20081122054733/http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20120508074930/http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/377/151303/New+Year+of+the+Cham+Bani?destId=357846

https://web.archive.org/web/20080826214730/http://www.bangsacham.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20120614183633/http://bangsacham.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080826214807/http://www.bangsacham.com/Videos.html

http://h24-files.s3.amazonaws.com/83515/265909-27KPb.pdf

http://baotanglichsuvn.com/phat-giao-cha-mpa-ts-ba-trung-phu-98.html

Hinduism in champa[edit]

Hey, is there any more info on the type of hinduism practiced there? thanks, domDomsta333 (talk) 13:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Inaccurate information?[edit]

The article writes that the Chams are descendants of the Cambodians and are a Mon-Khmer people with non-Mongoloid eyes, tall, fair and so on. Although it is cited, much of what is said contradicts modern data. The Chams are neither descendants of Cambodians or are they Mon-Khmer, it is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers. The rest of what is said is also highly questionable, like unproven eugenics. Do anyone favor re-examining the article? Thegreatesttypeofangry (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed -- much this article cites pseudoscientific and mythological claims about Kambojas and such. It's ridiculous for the article that states that the Cham are Austronesian people to late describe them as "Scythianized" (i.e. from the shores of the Black Sea).118.71.11.88 (talk) 09:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the nonsense. "It is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers." Indeed. The Chams probably originated in Borneo. --Folantin (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Balamons[edit]

The article contradicst itself. It says Balamon are actually Brahmins of the Cham people where as later it says they are kashtriyas. Where is the citation for both ? Taprobanus (talk) 22:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Chinese merchants in Champa[edit]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cLE_ToRyuLsC&pg=PA133&dq=southeast+asian+ports+intermarriage+daoyi+zhilue+champa+chinese+traders+local+women+cham+ports&hl=en&ei=jp7PTPjdBMP7lwev-ZmrBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=southeast%20asian%20ports%20intermarriage%20daoyi%20zhilue%20champa%20chinese%20traders%20local%20women%20cham%20ports&f=false

http://zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/島夷誌略#.E5.8D.A0.E5.9F.8E

Wang Yuanmao

http://books.google.com/books?id=Qs1q9VEoEkoC&pg=PA215&dq=chinese+merchant+champa+wang+yuanmao+quanzhou+man+king+barbarian+daughters&hl=en&ei=_XrQTJf9BsH6lwet8-SMBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=chinese%20merchant%20champa%20wang%20yuanmao%20quanzhou%20man%20king%20barbarian%20daughters&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=GEhGM6fZeaAC&pg=PA47&dq=Wang+yuanmao+king+daughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=K3ptUrvRErHe4APY-YGoDA&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Wang%20yuanmao%20king%20daughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=VV9khhBOrlUC&pg=PA144&dq=Wang+yuanmao+king+daughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=K3ptUrvRErHe4APY-YGoDA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Wang%20yuanmao%20king%20daughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=gyPjBevBHxcC&pg=PA111&dq=Wang+Yuan-mao+King&hl=en&sa=X&ei=44BtUseXC5aq4APXj4DICQ&ved=0CFwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Wang%20Yuan-mao%20King&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=v4I4thQ3ibsC&pg=PA55&dq=Wang+Yuan-mao+King&hl=en&sa=X&ei=44BtUseXC5aq4APXj4DICQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Wang%20Yuan-mao%20King&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?ei=OoFtUtm_K6nb4AOiwYGQAQ&id=-_yHAAAAIAAJ&dq=Shiba+Yoshinobu+Commerce+and+Society&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Wang+Yuan-mao

http://www.fjsq.gov.cn/ShowText.asp?ToBook=1037&index=24&

Cham religions and ethnic groups[edit]

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/140-champa-ethnic-groups

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/98-vi-c-b-i-thu-ng-cho-nh-ng-ngu-i-b-nhi-m-ch-t-d-c-mau-da-cam

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/141-the-van-kieu-ethnic-minorities-and-pa-kota

Cham Bani

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/108-the-bani

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/148-cham-soc-s-c-kh-e-tu-si-cham-bani-trong-mua-ramawan

Sources on history[edit]

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/105118/Champa

http://books.google.com/books?id=a5YntZEIUHMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=u4VOYN0dmqMC&pg=PA125#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZqOLmYD-0l4C&pg=PA532#v=onepage&q&f=false

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http://books.google.com/books?id=4Uyypm6T7ZsC&pg=PA353#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=fj8l8v_yP5oC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=cham+balamon&source=bl&ots=7ocmOsao6U&sig=xfu_vxvUzKVNgihmtLy_u1da97Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ROBhUMPmNO2-0QHr5YD4Ag&ved=0CGYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=cham%20balamon&f=false

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1309&dat=19881002&id=vWJPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cJADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5864,305252

http://www.vnptninhthuan.com.vn/SacCham/BalaMon.htm

http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Cham-Balamon-dignitary-council-makes-debut/20111/15293.vnplus

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/377/151303/New+Year+of+the+Cham+Bani?destId=357846

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4786832332032393014

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf

http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf

(http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo%28transgressionsdelislam%29.pdf)

Matriarcat Cham (royaume du Champa – Vietnam) : Allah trône aux côtés de la déesse-mère Ponagar

http://matricien.org/geo-hist-matriarcat/asie/chams/

http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/indiancolonization.pdf

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7451000

http://books.google.com/books?id=MBGYb84A7SAC&pg=PA228&lpg=PA228&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=wN_MXA-jzC&sig=CNZ5gf1kAbtOX9_IkPhA-408_UM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2sBhUOmlA5CP0QHUkIHoAw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=abu%20hasan%20jaya%20indravarman&f=false

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Rajmaan (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Cleansed urls

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http://books.google.com/books?id=hNcZJ35dIyUC&pg=PA86&dq=champa+gunpowder&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sNVKU5bAIOGgsQS9v4DIBw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=champa%20gunpowder&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=-01JisWpJbEC&pg=PA348&dq=Actes+du+Seminaire+sur+le+Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LX1DU_XZNejO2AXuq4H4CA&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Actes%20du%20Seminaire%20sur%20le%20Champa&f=false

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Research on Champa and its Evolution

Pierre Bernard Lafont

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How to Deal with Aboriginal Culture Ancient Champa as an Example·

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Thurgood, Graham" Crawfurd s 1822 Malay of Champa

http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/Papers/Crawfurd's%20Champa%20Malay.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=B1djAAAAMAAJ&q=Thurgood,+Graham%22+Crawfurd+s+1822+Malay+of+Champa&dq=Thurgood,+Graham%22+Crawfurd+s+1822+Malay+of+Champa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q3tDU9QQ7oDZBa3HgZgH&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA


http://books.google.com/books?id=MBGYb84A7SAC&pg=PA387&lpg=PA387&dq=Research+on+champa+and+its+evolution+Pierre+bernard+lafont&source=bl&ots=wN3K-vYmwF&sig=wX0oON5whN4-gaV-_Z9tSIhXA3o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y3lDU63jD6aE2wW-uoGgAw&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Research%20on%20champa%20and%20its%20evolution%20Pierre%20bernard%20lafont&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 18:36, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

The relationship between Cham and Aceh?[edit]

I still don't understand the relationship between Cham and Aceh. Where did the two groups come from? Borneo? I don't know. But after reading this forum post, I now tend to think a "sea-faring" Malayo-Polynesian dialect became a koine language for many people in Hindu-ized parts of ancient Vietnam and Cambodia. Komitsuki (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Utsul[edit]

http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Utsul language is more related to the Chamic Montagnard Jarai and Rhade langauges than it is to mainstream Cham.

http://books.google.com/books?id=yaeESYegRXMC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=abu+hasan+greek+rose+water+champa&source=bl&ots=iNUYKUvpjb&sig=gax8I5zL7OEAGOLzhSR3zOa1cR8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=l2LFUPHLM-PV0gGZ9oGYDA&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=abu%20hasan%20greek%20rose%20water%20champa&f=false

Page 247

http://books.google.com/books?id=WH0OAAAAYAAJ&q=This+fall+of+the+capital+in+982+accounts+for+the+refugees+mentioned+in+the+Chinese+dynastic+records+of+986+(History+of+the+Song+Dynasty+(960-1279),+which+records+in+986+the+arrival+of+some+Cham+in+Hainan+from&dq=This+fall+of+the+capital+in+982+accounts+for+the+refugees+mentioned+in+the+Chinese+dynastic+records+of+986+(History+of+the+Song+Dynasty+(960-1279),+which+records+in+986+the+arrival+of+some+Cham+in+Hainan+from

Matrilineal[edit]

http://books.google.com/books?id=tClCMl7hswQC&pg=PA82#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=yJPlCpzOY_QC&pg=PA196#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=fj8l8v_yP5oC&pg=PA80#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=jzuKi8RWYy0C&pg=PA75#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=_Rp5cCMHFxQC&pg=PA201#v=onepage&q&f=false

caste[edit]

http://www.everyculture.com/East-Southeast-Asia/Cham-Religion-and-Expressive-Culture.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=_Rp5cCMHFxQC&pg=PA203#v=onepage&q&f=false

Cham resistance against Vietnam[edit]

Historic[edit]

History of the Cham–Vietnamese wars

http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=Bc30ytJmwzMC&pg=PA110#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=TgkYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA251&dq=%22In+the+year+1474+the+censor+Ch'en+Chun+went+to+Champa+with+an+imperial+commission+to+invest+the+king+there,+but+on+his+arrival,+he+found+the+country+occupied+by+Annamese+soldiers,+so+that+he+could+not+enter+it+;+he+then+went+to+Malacca,+with&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SwgkUtiQOO65sQSZ4YHwBQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22In%20the%20year%201474%20the%20censor%20Ch'en%20Chun%20went%20to%20Champa%20with%20an%20imperial%20commission%20to%20invest%20the%20king%20there%2C%20but%20on%20his%20arrival%2C%20he%20found%20the%20country%20occupied%20by%20Annamese%20soldiers%2C%20so%20that%20he%20could%20not%20enter%20it%20%3B%20he%20then%20went%20to%20Malacca%2C%20with&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA103#v=onepage&q&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false


Refugees

http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false



http://chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support

http://chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76:nobel3&catid=37

Katip Suma's Jihad against Emperor Minh Mang's invasion of Champa in 1832-1835

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/78-the-uprisings-of-katip-sumat-and-ja-thak-wa-1833-1835

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/83-the-uprising-of-jathak-wa-1834-1835

http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://chamunesco.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:the-raja-praong-ritual-a-memory-of-the-sea-in-cham-malay-relations&catid=45:van-hoa&Itemid=120

Meanwhile, lack document to record the yourneys of Malay came to Champa by sea. Execpt, the yourney of Tuen Phaow from Kelantan come to Champa by sea to lead a Jihad movement to expel theVietnamese army from the land of Champa

http://voa-islam.com//news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://m.voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=Zw0j_5OauH8C&pg=PT180#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/120-the-champa-history-book-debut-and-a-seminar-on-the-indiginous-people-of-champa

http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html

http://kyotoreview.org/issue-5/vietnam-champa-relations-and-the-malay-islam-regional-network-in-the-17th-19th-centuries/

Rajmaan (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Rajmaan (talk) 04:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Modern[edit]

Les Kosem, United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/80-from-the-f-l-m-to-fulro-1955-1975

http://chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=79%3Achuyevuiboltarie&catid=37&Itemid=1

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/79-post-fulro-events-1975-2004

Fulro trở lại trên bàn cờ Tây Nguyên

http://www.champaka.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=579:fulro-tr-&catid=80:2012&Itemid=92

http://www.tinparis.net/thoisu12/FulrobancoTaynguyen_Champaka.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=60LVMIv3cXsC&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=2_zKFyHlBk0C&pg=PA262#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=xAKbllE5bioC&pg=PA255#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=CgwOi-5JrBYC&pg=PA12#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=BtmrZYAag58C&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ehCWYZ13SPsC&pg=PA101&dq=montagnard+genocide+chams&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NpTYUoy3NdWksQT74ICgCw&ved=0CDUQ6wEwAQ#v=onepage&q=montagnard%20genocide%20chams&f=false

Montagnard resistance to Vietnam[edit]

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/lighting-darkness-fulros-jungle-christians

http://www.degar.org/hlagru-fulro/


http://books.google.com/books?id=Ld9W1NKBjzQC&pg=PA190&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=2_zKFyHlBk0C&pg=PA151#v=onepage&q&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=xAKbllE5bioC&pg=PA255#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.montagnard-foundation.org/comm-070402.html

http://montagnard-foundation.org/wp/2011/07/08/1458

http://books.google.com/books?id=YmQJV_wT5EIC&pg=PT23&dq=montagnard+genocide&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mEj5UsTKKqrJ0gGCyoCoCA&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=montagnard%20genocide&f=false

http://www.mhro.org/montangards-history/conclusions

http://www.unpo.org/members/7898

http://chamtoday.com/index.php/ngonngu/77-the-uprising-of-the-central-highlanders-in-february-2001

http://www.degarfoundation.org/


http://www.montagnards.org/

http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/03/30/vietnam-montagnards-harshly-persecuted


http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/77-the-uprising-of-the-central-highlanders-in-february-2001

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/feb/13/20010213-021113-1435r/

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2001/feb/13/20010213-021113-1435r/

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-recent/6195

http://www.montagnard-foundation.org/

http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=873

http://www.degarfoundation.org/un-committee-highlights-pattern-of-racial-discrimination-in-vietnam/HRUE-DM...21-02-2012/MRO=873

http://www.degarfoundation.org/un-committee-highlights-pattern-of-racial-discrimination-in-vietnam/HRUE-DƯM...21-02-2012/MRO=873

http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=1388

http://www.degarfoundation.org/degar-man-was-hung-by-vietnamese-civilians/HRUE-DM...13-03-2013/MRO=1388

http://www.degarfoundation.org/degar-man-was-hung-by-vietnamese-civilians/HRUE-DƯM...13-03-2013/MRO=1388

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vietnam-continues-to-persecute-degar-christians-regardless-of-international-law/HRUE-DƯM...06-12-2012/MRO=1344

http://www.degarfoundation.org/mass-raid-against-degar-christians/HRUE-DƯM...03-10-2012/MRO=1326

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vietnamese-authorities-continue-interrogating-and-threatening-so-called-illegal-christians/HRUE-DƯM...09-03-2012/MRO=823

http://www.degarfoundation.org/kok-ksors-statement-to-cerd-80th-session/HRUE-DƯM...21-02-2012/MRO=718

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vietnamese-security-forces-beat-and-threaten-relatives-of-christian-prisoner/HRUE-DƯM...24-11-2011/MRO=73

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vietnam-sentences-degar-christian-to-5-years/HRUE-DƯM...14-09-2011/MRO=74

http://www.degarfoundation.org/a-mothers-silent-pain/HRUE-DƯM...12-09-2011/MRO=81

http://www.degarfoundation.org/the-persecution-of-the-degar-people/HRUE-DƯM...18-08-2011/MRO=83

http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=154

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vn-authorities-beat-and-torment-montagnard-men-during-interrogations-because-of-their-religious-activities-and-beliefs/HRUE-DM...23-02-2011/MRO=154

http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=151

http://www.degarfoundation.org/vn-uses-dogs-to-attack-degar-christian/HRUE-DM...24-02-2011/MRO=151

http://www.worthynews.com/1499-persecution-of-degar-montagnards-continues

http://www.expatica.com/ch/news/swiss-news/vietnam-religious-minorities-face-persecution-says-activist_209627.html

http://montagnard-foundation.org/wp/2011/07/08/1458

Khmer[edit]

http://khmerkromngo.org/map/map.htm

http://www.unpo.org/article/8856

http://khmerkromngo.org/

http://khmerkromngo.org/map/map.htm

http://www.khmerkrom.org/

http://www.khmerkrom.net/

http://vodhotnews.com/

http://www.vodhotnews.com/en/special-events/7391-the-64rd-anniversary-of-losing-kampuchea-krom-territorial-integrity-to-vietnam

Hmong[edit]

http://www.unpo.org/article/196

post conflict advocacy and persecution[edit]

Cham organizations and activists coopeate with Khmer Krom and Montagnard organizations against the Vietnamese government over human rights issues and minority rights. The Cham activists Musa Porome and Qasim Tu are particularly active in advocacy for Cham rights in Vietnam.

Dân tộc bản địa Việt Nam tại diễn đàn LHQ vào tháng 7-2013

http://www.champaka.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=854:dan-tc-bn-a-vit-nam-ti-din-an-lhq-vao-thang-7-2013&catid=80:2012&Itemid=92

Phái đoàn đấu tranh cho các dân tộc bản địa Viêt Nam (CIP-TVN) đi tham dự hội nghị nhân quyền tại thủ đô Washington lần II

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/84-phai-doan-d-u-tranh-cho-cac-dan-t-c-b-n-d-a-viet-nam-cip-tvn-di-tham-d-h-i-ngh-nhan-quy-n-t-i-th-do-washington-l-n-ii

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/84-phai-doan-d-u-tranh-cho-cac-dan-t-c-b-n-d-a-viet-nam-cip-tvn-di-tham-d-h-i-ngh-nhan-quy-n-t-i-th-do-washington-l-n-ii

http://chamtoday.com/index.php/about-us-v-chung-toi/84-phai-doan-d-u-tranh-cho-cac-dan-t-c-b-n-d-a-viet-nam-cit-tvn-di-tham-d-h-i-ngh-nhan-quy-n-t-i-th-do-washington-l-n-ii

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/160-nhan-d-p-d-u-nam-2014-nhan-danh-ch-t-ch-ioc-campa-toi-xin-g-i-l-i-chuc-m-ng-d-n-toan-th-nh-ng-th-n-dan-champa-trong-va-ngoai-nu-c-du-c-v-n-s-b-ng-an-d-qui-v-cung-bi-t-ioc-campa-da-th-c-hi-n-du-c-nh-ng-gi-trong-su-t-nam-2013-sau-day-la-vai-thanh-t-u-ma-ioc

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/component/content/?view=featured&start=40

The current Vietnamese government does not recognize the Cham as indigenous, and religious and ethnic persecution of Islam and the Cham people still occurs.

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/100-mission-to-vietnam-advocacy-day

http://web.archive.org/web/20120607215940/http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218:thecaseofthefallenchampa&catid=47

Qasim Tu is a Cham American rights activist

http://www. ipetitions. com/ petition/champanese/

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c

Musa Porome and his daughter Khaleelah Porome are also Cham activists living America, pressing America to criticize the Vietnamese government on its policies towards Cham people. They need their own wikipedia articles, Musa is notable enough.

http://youtube.com/channel/UC5WSnmX60nwq3wsRSKSOooQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ddKZPdys9bE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vaRy31nHko

http://www.aafv.org/spip.php?action=acceder_document&arg=3528&cle=d8415221ac37f2faa1d3561e0f660cbe033eef4a&file=pdf%2Fwongtzeken_thenguyenandchampaduring17th-18thcentury.pdf

http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-1.pdf

http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-4.pdf

http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-7.pdf

http://democraticvoicevn.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/council-of-indigenous-peoples-of-todays-vietnam-upr-joint-submission-vietnam-jan-2014.pdf

http://ilimochampa.org/conference.htm

http://www.cip-tvn.org/champa-history-book-debut/

https://www.facebook.com/musa.porome

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/minority/docs/ParticipantsListFMI2010.doc

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/142397140/forum-on-minority-issues---Office-of-the-High-Commissioner-for

Some Chams believe that the current Cambodian government is a puppet regime of the Vietnamese and is oppressing the Cambodian people.

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/91-news-world/139-vietnam-s-hidden-hand-in-cambodia-s-impasse

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-02-091013.html

Cham genetics[edit]

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0036437

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.full

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.abstract"

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.abstract%22

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20513740

http://books.google.com/books?id=k29xGe8kOa8C&pg=PT996&lpg=PT996&dq=Comparing+the+Chams+with+other+Southeast+Asian+populations+reveals+that+the+Chams+had+a+closer+affinity+with+the+Mon–Khmer+populations+in+MSEA+than+with+the+Austronesian+populations+from+Island+Southeast+Asia+(ISEA&source=bl&ots=LpzZZYjI4G&sig=df_gp5QYpCmzcFtpnmgJEOamvPE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uMIBU_S4NarwyAGcrYDwCQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Comparing%20the%20Chams%20with%20other%20Southeast%20Asian%20populations%20reveals%20that%20the%20Chams%20had%20a%20closer%20affinity%20with%20the%20Mon–Khmer%20populations%20in%20MSEA%20than%20with%20the%20Austronesian%20populations%20from%20Island%20Southeast%20Asia%20(ISEA&f=false

http://www.mitotool.org/lab/pdf/MBE2010%20Peng-Cham%20paper.pdf

http://www.bioon.com/biology/biox/444697.shtml

http://www.ebiotrade.com/newsf/2010-6/201064171613441.htm

http://www.ebiomed.com/viewnews-311.html

http://www.verticalnews.com/premium_newsletters/China-Weekly-News/2010-10-19/9655TI.html


http://www.pubfacts.com/author/Peng+Min-Sheng/Min-Sheng-Peng.html

http://www.biomeddefinition.com/sdx/e10/all/100/affinity+group+continental+population.html

Cham history[edit]

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/81-geography-of-historical-champa

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/82-history-of-champa

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/99-historyofchampa

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/105-d-i-chiem-h-i-kh-u-h-i-an-m-t-c-ng-th-qu-c-t-s-m-u-t-th-i-vuong-qu-c-champa

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/128-podharma

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/141-the-van-kieu-ethnic-minorities-and-pa-kota

cham life in vietnam[edit]

http://web.archive.org/web/20100913222239/http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/35-vietnams-minority-chams-cling-to-muslim-faith-ak-03

http://www.muinebeach.net/chamculture.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=a5YntZEIUHMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Transgressions de l’islam au Vietnam Agnès De Féo*

http://chamstudies.free.fr/ChamsBani.pdf

http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf

http://agnesreportages.free.fr/textes/ChamsBani.pdf

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=4786832332032393014&q=islam&total=147121&start=30&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Vietnam : l’Islam des Chams Bani dimanche 22 avril 2007

http://www.buddhachannel.tv/portail/spip.php?article487

The syncretic world of the ‘pure Cham’ By Agnès De Féo

http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/ppp.pdf

Les musulmans de Châu Ò””c (Vietnam) à l'épreuve du salafisme

by DE Agnès

http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/MoussonsSom.pdf

Les musulmans de Châu Đốc (Vietnam) à l’épreuve du salafisme Châu Đốc Muslims (Vietnam) faced with Salafism Agnès De Féo p. 359-372

http://moussons.revues.org/976

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor.html

Economy in Motion: Cham Muslim Traders in the Mekong Delta Philip Taylor

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(chammuslimtraders).pdf

Redressing Disadvantage or Re-arranging Inequality? Development Interventions and Local Responses in the Mekong Delta Philip Taylor

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(redressingdisadvantage).pdf

philip taylor Poor Policies, Wealthy Peasants: Alternative Trajectories of Rural Development in Vietnam

http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(ruraldevelopmentinvn).pdf

http://youtube.com/user/yousoh

Rajmaan (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Miscellaneous[edit]

Map of historical Champa throughout the ages

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7692/chammap2bl1.gif

Map of Asia including Champa from Abbasid point of view.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5002/sanf2uv0.gif

Austronesian migration including Cham people in 1500 BC

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5700/malaymigration0wr.jpg

Champa in 1150 AD.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2857/danmalayu02.jpg

Other

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8231/danmalayu01.jpg


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/maps.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ly.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-ly.gif

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-tran.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ho.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/indochina-map-1350.gif

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-tran.gif

http://khmerkromngo.org/gImages/map/KhmerEmpire.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Czampa_Mapa.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/VietnamChampa1.gif/382px-VietnamChampa1.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Nam_Tien.PNG/360px-Nam_Tien.PNG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Nam_tien.jpg

http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/Politics/2012/09/Champa_Kingdom_Map.jpg

http://www.degar.org/hlagru-flc/

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Bandera_Front_Alliberament_Cham.svg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Flag_of_BAJARAKA.svg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Flag_of_KKF.svg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Map_of_Vietnam_1829.jpg/399px-Map_of_Vietnam_1829.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Map-of-southeast-asia_1000_-_1100_CE.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/VietnamTrinhNguyen1.gif

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Map_of_Taungoo_Empire_%281580%29.png

Rajmaan (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Vietnamese fears of Cham autonomy over South China sea disputes[edit]

Vietnam fears that if the issue of Cham relations to the disputed south China sea islands are brought up, Cham would demand atuonomy from Vietnam since they were violently conquered by the Vietnamese. Vietnam has put more restrictions of Cham culture and customs recently.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/06/140616-south-china-sea-vietnam-china-cambodia-champa/

Rajmaan (talk) 22:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


I have several doubts on the veridicity of this article. First of all, as it is on the page right now, it sounds like the plundering and destroying of Cham temples is going on right now, which is not true. It's also false that most of Cham live in houses of mud. The article quoted makes a wrong connection between the Montagnards' uprisings and the Cham. I think this article should not be quoted like that.Suturn (talk) 07:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)