Talk:Charles II of Navarre

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I'd like a map of his posssessions. --Error 11:48, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

"the bad"[edit]

Shouldn't the lede include an explanation of why Charles is the "the bad"? He was no nice guy, he doesn't seem to have done anything so outstandingly bad as to earn this nickname. I assume it is because he was the principle rival of French King John the Good. Kauffner (talk) 05:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

In Swedish it's rendered as "Carl the Evil" (probably following German which would be Karl der Böse). One notch better! ;) And no, it was certainly not because of the rough way he put down the uprising. Strausszek (talk) 12:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, he is nicknamed "the bad" because of his failures during his mandate. He lost his rights to the French throne, all his territories and left Navarre quite weakened after his death. He was not particularly "Evil", on the contrary, he seemed to be a "fine fellow" for a King of that time, but he just couldn't be trusted by other Kingdoms. He changed allies very frequently, not paying attention to his advisers, such as Symon d'Escorssi, who had to travel quite a lot between France, Castille and Aragon to fix matters with those Kingdoms...Hope this is useful...Achaya — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

This is how he is introduced in a book I read, relating to when he makes his break during the jacquerie: "The terrified nobles had finally found themselves a leader in the person of Carl the Evil, politically a dangerous and devious adversary of royal power." ;) Strausszek (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

It is interesting to note that in most of the documents from the Kingdom of Navarre during his reign (Comptos documents), he is also addressed as Charles II of Navarre, known as "The Mauvre". So, he was nicknamed during his lifetime, and he knew about it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)