Talk:Charles VII, Holy Roman Emperor

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Misleading and Inacurate[edit]

Whilst the Elector Charles Albert—as he is commonly called in history books—managed to have himself briefly elected Holy Roman Emperor, he is generally remembered as a wannabe. He was a prince elector of the empire whose actual sovereign title was Duke of Bavaria. (Herzog von Bayern.)

All Bavarian ducal, and later royal, offspring, belonging to the Wittelsbach dynasty, other than the dynastic head, bear the title of Duke in Bavaria. (Herzog zu Bayern.)

Accordingly, this article calls Charles Albert's and Maria Amälia's children princes of Bavaria erroneously. (talk)


There might be something wrong here. I don't think Francis succeeded him, Charles VI daughter, Maria Theresa did. She was Holy Roman Emperor, not her husband Francis who was only the Duke of Lorraine.

I don't think that's the usual understanding. The Pragmatic Sanction sought to make Maria Theresa the Habsburg heir, but Holy Roman Emperor was an elective office, not a heritable one. Maria Theresa was never elected Holy Roman Emperor, though her husband was, on September 13, 1745. Francis was Duke of Lorraine when he married Maria Theresa in 1736, but he exchanged his ancestral duchy for the right of succession to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany because of French objections to the union of Lorraine with the Habsburg lands. -- Someone else 02:17 Dec 16, 2002 (UTC)

Basically, what he said, yeah. They never elected her. She did pretty much lead it all, though, with her husband, and then her son, as figureheads. -Alex 09:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC).

Wasnt Charles just a "holy roman king".

New Babylon 2 13:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The correct title was Holy Roman Emperor and German King. An elective office to which a male German Prince was elected by the Prince Electors of the Empire meeting as the Imperial Diet (Reichsrat). The Imperial diet met at the city of Ratisbon (Regensburg.) (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)