Talk:Charlie Chaplin

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Charlie Chaplin[edit]

Recent new evidence, (a letter sent in the 1970's to Charlie Chaplain which he is believed to have hidden away) has recently come to light that questions his place of birth.

He is now believed to have been born to traveller gypsies in a place known by the name of the Black patch in Smethwick once a part of Birmingham but now in Sandwell because of many factories that surrounded the area at the time but are no longer there.

Charlie Chaplains son Michael believes the letter to be correct and has suggested a monument of some kind be placed at the site which is still parkland to this day.

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original info obtained from https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheBearwoodPage/?ref=bookmarks further research leads to these news articles.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/experts-999-per-cent-certain-9723266?fb_ref=Default#ICID=sharebar_facebook

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-blog/8333101/Charlie-Chaplin-was-the-entertainer-really-born-in-Smethwick.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117714/Was-Charlie-Chaplin-born-gypsy-caravan-West-Midlands-Letter-locked-away-decades-hold-answer-mystery-MI5-CIA-solve.html

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80.189.244.186 (talk) 06:07, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Sorry, but I wouldn't believe Facebook in a month of Sundays. The Telegraph and the Daily Mail are also quite speculative over the information. CassiantoTalk 06:09, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, this is probably the tenth time someone brings this up on the talk page... please take a look at the archived discussions. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 08:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

Chaplin biopic could use a section[edit]

Obviously not relevant detail to article, so this won't be added here; put it in movie's own article if anywhere Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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As this is a biography article about Chaplin, it would benefit the article, IMO, to include a section devoted to the only biographical film about him: Chaplin. The film, like any film, takes creative license, but its tone is very factual and biographical throughout, including real characters, events, and even exact quotes.

The WP article about the film is actually read by more people than read any of the articles about the films he made. And hardly any of those films are biographical or tell anything about his real life, although most have sections and detailed commentary. However, the Chaplin biopic only has a brief one-sentence mention, and is difficult to even find.

I think a section about the film could include commentary with comparisons with his real life, describing how or where the film is accurate or innacurate. Of course, there's already a link to the film, but there are still a few problems. First, the film article is very brief, listing plot and actors, and not too informative beyond that. Second, all the other films and people in his life also have links within this article, but still have commentary and context to his life. So at least my overall first impression is that this significant, Oscar-nominated film bio, is essentially hidden within the article, and thereby made insignificant, trivial or even irrelevant to this large biography.

Support section addition. --Light show (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Oppose This is possibly the most ridiculous request for a section I have ever heard. This article is about Chaplin, the person, not a film about Chaplin, the person. Would we be writing about Chaplin, the person in Chaplin, the film? No. CassiantoTalk 00:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Oppose Why not just concentrate on expanding the film article? If I were interested in finding out how accurate it is or in finding any other information specifically about the film, my first instinct would be to go to the film article. Adding more information, let alone a new section, about the film to the article on Chaplin would overemphasize its importance. As for your second point, they are discussed more in depth because they are relevant biographical information (i.e. it would be difficult to explain Chaplin's life and career without them); Chaplin was made more than a decade after Chaplin's death, he had nothing to do with it. The film has nothing to do with his life or career per se but is simply a later representation of it. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 00:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3


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N Archived sources still need to be checked

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