Talk:Charlie Chaplin

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What The...?[edit]

What the heck happened?! In English,we have a normal-without costume Sir Charles Chaplin. But when you switch the language to Bahasa Indonesia, the picture totaly change into the tramp! Personaly myself, I prefer the normal one, I think the mustache is kind of creepy you know.. :3— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2015‎ 139.228.49.9 (talkcontribs) 13:07, 9 November 2015‎ (UTC)

'Filmmaker' vs. 'actor, director, composer, screenwriter, producer, & editor'[edit]

For what it's worth, my college roommate was a 'filmmaker' -- he had a 16mm camera, and shot films (when he could afford to buy film). He was not an actor, a composer, or a screenwriter (worked in 'concepts'); a producer sort of (though never commercially), an editor only rarely. And many, very successful current Hollywood and independent 'filmmakers' do only some, or only one, of the 6 major components listed here for the films they 'make', that Chaplin did in making his. Somehow, however we describe Chaplin's multi-faceted talents and creative genius, we should do so in a way that clearly emphasizes and distinguishes all the many different talents he poured in making his films, from what my college roommate did.
That said, including 'filmmaker' in the lede is OK, as long as the whole list for Chaplin is in the InfoBox, and in the body of text of the article -- and that would make a nice compromise perhaps to assuage those holding out for 'filmmaker', for whatever reason(?) - (pride of authorship, maybe?). --- Professor JR (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! Also you might want to read Wikipedia:Ownership of content#Ownership_and_stewardship. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

The reasoning for having "filmmaker" in the lead sentence is given above, it seems unfair to suggest it's purely stubbornness/ownership. It's based in clear thinking - including the fact that Chaplin's specific roles are stated lower down in the lead and we'd be repeating ourselves... --Loeba (talk) 21:14, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Article fails to capture "familiar pattern"[edit]

How is it that this premier online encyclopedic article fails to capture biographical content indicating a repeating pattern of contracts and affairs with actresses much younger than himself, in the run up to the Barry legal entanglements and the O'Neil marriage? Every source I examined made clear that all associated with Chaplin knew this as a pattern. And—here I will speculate—I imagine if academic literature of film history is consulted, the matter has almost certainly been discussed in terms of sexual harassment (given the power relationship existing between a studio-contracted actress and a Director of a film for which she is being considered). I leave it to those dedicated to this page to introduce this accuracy (and balance) to the page. In the same vein, the article's coverage of Barry matter and of the federal prosecution present the matter in a far more positive light either than expected of a balanced account, or that would reflect the tenor of news perceptions at the time. I believe this is selective reading/reporting of the biographical sources. 50.179.252.14 (talk) 03:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)