Talk:Charlie Crist

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Former good article nominee Charlie Crist was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Are Crist staffers monitoring this page?[edit]

Crist is a primary subject of noted director Kirby Dick's 2009 documentary Outrage. In general, when a person is the subject of a documentary or featured in a work of art generally, that work is referenced. I understand that the film makes allegations against Crist -- namely, that he may be gay. I added this to a "art and media" section once and it was promptly removed, within an hour or so -- my suspicion is that it was removed by a staffer, based on the peremptory message I received from the editor who removed it, whose insistent, inflexible tone and immediate action were highly unusual for a neutral, unbiased editor unconnected with the subject of the page in question. Crist's name has also been removed from the Outrage Wiki page which thoroughly list all the subjects included in the film -- yet Crist alone is suspiciously absent. Just wanted eligible editors -- without ties to the politician -- to keep an eye out for Crist staff intrusion into this page. Thanks Joeletaylor (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure, there are probably Crist staffers who edit this page, but that doesn't mean that removing the contentious content was wrong. We take a very cautious approach and almost always require self-identification for something as sensitive as sexual identity. You have given no specifics about the edit in question to this article, so it's difficult to say whether reverting it was appropriate.- MrX 19:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I have lived in South Carolina all my life and think that Florida and anti-gay-rights politicians deserve to be taunted, so I'm definitely not a Crist staffer. The edit you describe violates the general understanding of WP:BLP that claims about sexuality require the self-identification of the subject in question. Speculation isn't enough. Even if a subject was found having sex with others of the same gender during a LGBT pride parade, the possibility of bisexuality would require us to wait until they specified.
A number of speculated entries (including Crist) were removed from the article Outrage (2009 film) by George Ho (who identifies as gay), Collect (who has received awards for ensuring that WP:BLP is followed), and Jehochman (who is an administrator). Collect undid your first edit here, asking you to see one of the many discussions establishing that Outrage is not reliable enough to speculate on Crist's sexuality. Your second attempt was undone by Alanyst, who fully explains the reasoning here.
If you had evidence that there were Crist staffers here, that would be important information -- but your assumption that that could be the only reason is just a violation of WP:AGF. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:35, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
For the record, I have no connection at all with Crist nor his various campaigns over the years. I don't really have an opinion of the man either personally or politically. alanyst 22:39, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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External links modified[edit]

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I have just added archive links to 12 external links on Charlie Crist. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

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Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 21:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)