Talk:Chechen–Russian conflict

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Chechen–Russian conflict → Chechen conflict – WP:COMMONAME Երևանցի ^talk 21:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC) Google Books:

• "Chechen conflict" - 11,600 results
• "Chechen–Russian conflict" - 448 results

*Support Superfluous disambiguation. ^walk victor falk ^talk 08:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

missed the Chechen War redirect pointed out by user:amakuru, I'll have to reconsider. ^walk victor falk ^talk 08:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• Strong comment - the target article is currently a redirect to Chechen War, which is itself a disambig page between ten topics. So this is not just a question of common name, there's a disambiguation page / WP:primarytopic issue to be discussed as well.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:01, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. What does "Chechen War" even mean? Please take a glance at the Google Books results for "Chechen conflict". Virtually all the matches are about the conflict between Chechnya (or various Chechen forces) and the Russian/Soviet state. --Երևանցի ^talk 15:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• Strong oppose as per WP:PRECISE; not clear enough what is being referred to. Red Slash 02:58, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

"Not clear enough" for what? Take a look at the Google Books results. The only conflict that Chechens ever had had been with Russia. The conflict is most commonly simply called Chechen conflict. See War in Afghanistan (2001–present). --Երևանցի ^talk 04:17, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose – malformed proposal. The proposed new title is not available. Dicklyon (talk) 07:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

"The proposed new title is not available" What's that suppose to mean? Can you see the Google Books results? --Երևանցի ^talk 21:08, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

It means that the title Chechen conflict is already in use, as a redirect to Chechen War, which is a disambig page for a number of Chechin conflict/war articles. The fact that the term is frequently used doesn't mean it is available as a title for any one particular topic. You need to first say what's the relationship to the current use, and why repurposing this title would be a net win. Dicklyon (talk) 06:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

I understand that Chechen conflict is already in use. I've been on Wikipedia for years to know that. You missed the point. "Chechen conflict" refers to this conflict. It is simply a shorter and a more common (as you can see by the Google Books results) for the conflict Russia has had with Chechens". --Երևանցի ^talk 06:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.