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Currency - can someone change the opening para to correct the 1:1 conversion rate between Roubles/USD? One rouble is worth around 2 cents currently...

Bezpalov[edit]

"These were the engineers Alexei Ananenko (who knew where the valves were) and Valeri Bezpalov, accompanied by a third man, Boris Baranov [...] All of them returned to the surface and according to Ananenko, their colleagues jumped for joy when they heard they had managed to open the valves. Upon emerging from the water, the three were already suffering from radiation sickness and later died."

It looks like Bespalov was still alive in 2008, There's even a photo of him here with the following tag: "Валерий Беспалов, сотрудник с 25-летним стажем, начальник смены первой очереди ЧАЭС. Лично контролирует состояние отработанного топлива в отключенном реакторе первого эторгоблока. Называет себя патриотом станции" Gyurika (talk) 19:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Beata Li Caused this event — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.126.103 (talk) 16:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Google translation: "Valeri Bespalov, an employee with 25 years of experience, the first stage of the shift supervisor Chernobyl. Personally, monitors the status of the spent fuel in the reactor off first etorgobloka. He calls himself a patriot stations." The problem is that there may have been several Bespalovs at Chernobyl. The caption leads to no conclusion on that. SkoreKeep (talk) 18:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

"there may have been several Bespalovs at Chernobyl" And what do you base this hypothesis on? Do you have any sources, that prove that there were multiple Valeriy Bezpalovs both working there in the 1980s? Gyurika (talk) 08:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Why, none at all. I did use the verb "may". We have the news story, which has them all dying of ARS after the accident; it is possible, if not likely, that two of them died and one didn't. Then we have this non-story, which is a picture of a 30's looking fellow with the same name. The story says, in its entirety, "22 years after the terrible accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant life in the 30-km exclusion zone is in full swing. This convinced Photographer magazine reporter Natalia Kravchuk." And the picture, and the caption. No where does it connect the person in the picture (presumably it can be dated to around 2008) and the name in the original news story about the divers. My first reaction is, are we talking the same fellow? That's before even considering the accuracy of the website, and making an unmade connection implied, but not stated.
One other thing to consider. It says this Bezpalov has 25 years experience. The disaster happened 22 years ago (in 2008). So with three years experience this man was able to become the first shift supervisor (on reactor#3) at Chernobyl. Does that seem reasonable?
So, take your pick. SkoreKeep (talk) 20:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
SkoreKeep No, at the time of of the accident, Bespalov was "second senior engineer". Perfectly believable, especially because he probably had experience prior to his employment at Chernobyl. both last names and first names match. Also, none of them died shortly after the disaster, as I think my post Talk:Deaths due to the Chernobyl disaster makes clear. The info is entirely apocryphal.31.130.204.145 (talk) 00:11, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Was it "test" or "experiment"?[edit]

In section "Conditions before the accident" there is a sentence: "The night shift had very limited time to prepare for and carry out the _experiment_" (note word "experiment") but in same section, at beginning, article state: "The conditions to run the _test_ were established before the day shift of 25 April 1986." - So was it "test" or "experiment"? Calimero (talk) 23:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Answer: it was experiment, but experiment consisted several tests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.65.58.158 (talk) 08:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Two or four years?[edit]

There is another collision in same section; section: "Steam turbine tests" Statement: "The Chernobyl power plant had been in operation for _two years_ without the capability to ride through the first 60–75 seconds of a total loss of electric power" (note: _two years_) and few lines above we can read: "An initial test carried out in _1982_ showed that the excitation voltage of the turbine-generator was insufficient; it did not maintain the desired magnetic field after the turbine trip. The system was modified, and the test was repeated in 1984 but again proved unsuccessful. In 1985, the tests were attempted a third time but also yielded negative results. The test procedure was to be repeated again in 1986"

So how Chernobyl power plant had been in operation for _two years_ without the capability to ride through the first 60–75 seconds of power loss when _first_ tests was conducted FOUR years prior disaster ("An initial test carried out in _1982_") for same reasons? Calimero (talk) 00:12, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Answer: 26 April 1986 test is not reactor working condition test but exercise (drill) test to see what happened when plant is losing power. For reactor, "Two years" is correct, the reactor is connected to grid in 1984.

Wrong picture in article[edit]

I bring to attention that in picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#/media/File:Chernobyl-LWR-comparison.PNG , the RBMK drawing is completely wrong. RBMK reactor is not filled by water, like the LWR reactor is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.65.58.158 (talk) 08:19, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

The drawing doesn't show it full of water. The white space above the blue is steam. If you're saying the core isn't immersed in water, you are wrong. It is. Please be more exlicit about how the drawing is wrong. SkoreKeep (talk) 00:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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