Talk:Chiang Kai-shek

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Phonetic pronunciation of CKS[edit]

Could someone who knows (not me, I'm afraid) put up a phonetic guide to the pronunciation of CKS's name? I ask because in Barbara Tuchman's biography of Joe Stilwell she criticises a US official for pronouncing his name to rhyme with "bang". I'd always assumed that was right too.Thomas Peardew (talk) 07:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Dia Li[edit]

What was said about Dia Li whose name was actually Tai Li is not entirely correct. He did not trust or like the British who arrested him when Tai Li went to Vietnam before WW-II and Chiang had to arrange for his release. Tai was the Director of a US Navy Unit called SACO. SACO was the only military unit that I know of who was under the direct control of a foreign government, China. ADM Miles was the Deputy Director of SACO. Tai Li ordered the British intelligence unit out of China after WW-II started. After the war started, ADM King gave then Commander Miles secret orders to go to China and work with Tai Li to set up weather stations and help the Chinese and locate coast watchers to look for Japanese ships. SACO’ duties were expanded later. Tai Li was also in charge of China’s BIA, Bureau of Investigation and Statistics, which is like our FBI. It is true Tai Li did not trust many people but he developed a very close relationship with the SACO personal and ADM Miles and trusted them completely. It is also true he did not like and Chiang did like GEN Stillwell, GEN Wedemyer or GEN Donovan due to things which were said and done. It is also true a US General made a mistake at a banquet given for him by Tai Li. He got drunk and said some things which criticized China and Chaing’s wife. It became a major issue between the US and China and things had to be smoothed out. Unknown to Chiang, General Donovan, who was director of the OSS, sent men to north China and met with the Communist Chinese. When Chiang found out through information provided by Tai Li, he became very angry with General Wedemyer since he was the theater commander and another situation developed and trust between the US and China became strained again. GEN Stillwell, Gen Wedemyer and GEN Donovan wanted SACO out of China and did everything they could to do so. This also did not help in the relationship between Chiang, Tai Li and the US government and military. See www.saconavy.com and ADM Miles book “A Different Kind of War” and other books written about SACO by SACO veterans about the relationship between the US military and Chiang/Tai Li and the US government. Jack Coyle SACO Historian jackwcoyle@bellsouth.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.166.105.139 (talk) 15:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Atrocities comitted by Chiang Kai Shek's Governement[edit]

There is a remarkable lack of mention of the number of people massacred at the hands of his government. There is lots of useful sourced info in this page: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE2.HTM

Some of this info could be added to the KMT page and the History of China page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.218.11 (talk) 19:10, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Chiang kai-shek's criticism of soviet, western, and japanese imperialism[edit]

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'What they call "Internationalism" and "World Revolution" are nothing but Kaiser Imperialism. They have only given it a new name and made it puzzling to distinguish one from the other. Russians, as well as the English, French, Americans and Japanese, it seems to me, all have it in their minds to promote the interest of their own respective countries at the cost of other nations. One of them ridiculing the others about this is, as Mencius said, just like a man who had run only fifty paces ridiculing those who had run a hundred paces for having run at all.

Title The life of Chiang Kai-shek Author Shih-i Hsiung Publisher Peter Davies, 1948 Length 398 pages

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"What they call 'Internationalism' and 'World Revolution' are nothing but Kaiser Imperialism. . . . Russians, as well as the English, French, Americans and Japanese, it seems to me, all have it in their minds to promote the interest of their own respective countries at the cost of other nations. One of them ridiculing the others about this is, as Mencius said, just like a man who had run only fifty paces ridiculing those who had run a hundred paces for having run at all. </blockquote


Title Chiang Kai-shek: an unauthorized biography Author Emily Hahn Publisher Doubleday, 1955 Original from the University of Michigan Digitized Jan 6, 2006 Length 382 pages

Jonathan Marshall - Opium and the Politics of Gangsterism in Nationalist China, 1927-1945[edit]

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http://criticalasianstudies.org/assets/files/bcas/v08n03.pdf

Rajmaan (talk) 02:02, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Anti-capitalism and cultural policy of Chiang Kai-shek[edit]

http://books.google.com/books?id=uZbr9iD1HZ8C&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=1hXukNa4Ey&sig=1dArJFq0rHOKyCutlvV3c9XuYkg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=o82wUtyoI-nsyQGH44HADQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=DUg2KGMQWHQC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=R_FXIWVO17&sig=CgCsJ4wYRotLiuqGxa3VxcFvi38&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F86wUqjLE6TgyQGv74DgDg&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=UE7WmwExNWUC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=UFAujH8Nyj&sig=sgeRnxh82qHSJWHTDMn_r4U15xo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F86wUqjLE6TgyQGv74DgDg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBjgK#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=9nJF_19fnZ4C&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=wt7YVlgln8&sig=qCyDWymZht4pktCqjaJespi2oUU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F86wUqjLE6TgyQGv74DgDg&ved=0CCgQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=GUpXdt3-Jv8C&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=xOqsuLiNOZ&sig=V1ULneEn9OHh2Y3ra12vul9WEBk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F86wUqjLE6TgyQGv74DgDg&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

The German advisor Max Bauer advised Chiang on anti capitalism and of the importance of cultural preservation over material development, Bauer believed that western civilization had been going downhill aftter 1789.

http://books.google.com/books?id=lzisAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=anti+capitalist+chiang&source=bl&ots=jy-31QdM44&sig=2q4EUyxsrnvckNXnLTtSOqslFnI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F86wUqjLE6TgyQGv74DgDg&ved=0CD4Q6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=anti%20capitalist%20chiang&f=false

Vietnam policy[edit]

http://www.vietquoc.com/0007vq.htm

http://www.vietquoc.com/0006ART.HTM

The blog itself is not a source, but it lists good sources.

http://leminhkhai.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/chiang-kai-shek-and-vietnam-in-1945/

https://leminhkhai.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/ho-chi-minh-said-what/

Ryukyu (Okinawa) policy[edit]

In 1943, during World War II, the US President asked its ally, the The Republic of China, if it would lay claim to the Ryukyus after the war.“The President then referred to the question of the Ryukyu Islands and enquired more than once whether China would want the Ryukyus. The Generalissimo replied that China would be agreeable to joint occupation of the Ryukyus by China and the United State and, eventually, joint administration by the two countries under the trusteeship of an international organization.”

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http://books.google.com/books?ei=eqIJU8XWJ6WEygGt0YHADg&id=ZNxIAQAAIAAJ&dq=The+President+then+referred+to+the+question+of+the+Ryukyu+Islands+and+enquired+more+than+once+whether+China+would+want+the+Ryukyus.+The+Generalissimo+replied+that+China+would+be+agreeable+to+joint+occupation+of+the+Ryukyus+by+China+and+the+United+State&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=enquired+want

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http://books.google.com/books?ei=eqIJU8XWJ6WEygGt0YHADg&id=is4WAAAAYAAJ&dq=The+President+then+referred+to+the+question+of+the+Ryukyu+Islands+and+enquired+more+than+once+whether+China+would+want+the+Ryukyus.+The+Generalissimo+replied+that+China+would+be+agreeable+to+joint+occupation+of+the+Ryukyus+by+China+and+the+United+State&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=question+Ryukyu+enquired+want

http://www.asianewsnet.net/news-36903.html

http://cpri.tripod.com/cpr1999/ryukyu.html