Talk:Chinese Brazilians

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Peer Review[edit]

What a lovely article to choose! There is plenty of information that you have outline both past and present for this topic that will greatly improve this article. I'm glad to see that you have working sources and scholarly ones at that. Please make sure to reorganize the headings on the Wikipedia page to make it easier navigate the page. I'm excited to see how the article comes together with more information!

Elaineclare (talk) 19:33, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. What I will do is to put a brief introduction on what it means to "Chinese Brazilians" and briefly cover the history of Chinese immigration, demographics and current life. I will definitely start with History and then remaining Chinese Brazilians. Twu21 (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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"Chinese Brazilians" article editing plan[edit]

Notability: Chinese Brazilians has played a crucial in building Brazil since the colonial age. Chinese immigrants, as a group of laborers, started to work in Brazil under the contract with Portugal and Great Britain. They were used as a political and social tactics to compensate for the abolition of slavery. Chinese immigrants are lack of credibility in building Brazil, and their work has contributed to the progress of Brazil.

Introduction: A brief history of Chinese Brazilian immigration, stereotypes, controversies, struggles, demographics, interaction with other ethnic and racial group and current life.

History: Chinese started moving to Brazil since late Qing Dynasty. A brief historical background of late Qing Dynasty. Explore the push and pull factor for immigrating to other countries, and if it is the intent for short stay or permanent settlement. Their ideology once moving to Brazil. Social and racial controversies. Immigration policy by Brazilian government. Cultural value inherited from Chinese culture, and their culture clashes with Brazil. 20th Century huge historical events like World War II and the Chinese Civil War, and reasons for immigration in that era.

Now: Demographics: find the population portion, race category, ethnic group Current life: interactions with other racial and ethnic groups, jobs, business, interactions within the community, social struggles and dilemmas.

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References

^ Nicola Foote, Michael Goebel. Immigration and National Ideinties in Latin America. University Press of Florida, 2014. https://0-ebookcentral-proquest-com.dewey2.library.denison.edu/lib/wooster/detail.action?docID=1833893.
^ Jeffrey Lesser. Negotiating National Identity : Immigrants, Minorities, and the Struggle for Ethnicity in Brazil. Durham, N.C: Duke University Press, 1999. http://consort.library.denison.edu:80/record=b2074452~S6.
^ Conrad, Robert. “The Planter Class and the Debate over Chinese Immigration to Brazil, 1850- 1893.” International Migration Review 9, no. 1 (1975): 41. https://doi.org/10.2307/3002529.
^ Dantas, Sylvia Duarte. “An Intercultural Psychodynamic Counselling Model: A Preventive Work Proposition for Plural Societies.” Counselling Psychology Quarterly 24, no. 1 (March 2011): 1–14. https://doi.org/10.1080/09515070.2010.529653.
^ “Brazil Wants Chinese: The Government Arranging Already with the Emporor for Immigrants.” July 5, 1893.
^ Bernard Wong, Chee-Beng Tan. Chinatowns around the World: Glided Ghetto, Ethnopolis, and Cultural Diaspora. 1st ed. Brill, 2014. http://consort.library.denison.edu:80/record=b4424356~S6.

Peer review 2[edit]

The plans you have made for your article are very interesting and I'm sure they will create a great well rounded article once you make the planned changes. It is important to remember when discussing an entire group of people that you avoid making generalizations about experiences. Good luck with your changes!Knit buffalo (talk) 13:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! You have been busy working on this page since I was last here! You have an impressive amount of content here. I have made some small grammatical changes to your page. The tone is more of an argumentative essay not an encyclopedia, at times it sounds a bit biasied towards the Chinese Brazilians. You could remedity this quite easily, just by removing certain words and reworking some sentences. Once you make these changes your page would be quite exceptional. Good luck with your changes! Knit buffalo (talk) 20:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

While Chinese people arrived in Brazil earlier than most people know and other facts are accurate, one cannot accurately defend the claims that have been presented before, some examples:

1. Chinese labor did not replace slave labor in Brazil not even close to it (while there were debates on that possibility and many others ie. indians, japanese, europeans etc, it was never implemented and in reality the workers that replaced the slaves were mostly, well, Brazilian former slaves, since they did not disappear after slavery ended); the main reason for labor shortages was also not the abolition of slavery, but the abolition of the transatlantic slave trade

2. The first Chinese people in the country reportedly arrived in 1814, but immigration during the 19th century was tiny and official immigration started only in 1900.

3. The shortages of labor that existed were compensated by European, Arab and Japanese immigrants, mostly; the Chinese population that we now have in the country is mostly descended of far later immigrant flows, starting in the 1900s, but actually only picking up steam after WW2.2804:14D:5C70:970E:6D94:BBF9:454B:6B71 (talk) 05:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections, context and more precision[edit]

The text was not putting presenting brazilian history correctly, which is a problem when one argues the main factor bringing in chinese immigrants was the pull factor rather than push factors in China. Also, it focused too much on the debate on how to replace slave labor which doesn't make too much sense as the answer to that ended up NOT being chinese labor; most chinese arrived in Brazil after 1900, and I tried to at least mention that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:5C70:970E:6D94:BBF9:454B:6B71 (talk) 05:19, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Nicola Foote, Michael Goebel. Immigration and National Ideinties in Latin America. University Press of Florida, 2014. https://0-ebookcentral-proquest-com.dewey2.library.denison.edu/lib/wooster/detail.action?docID=1833893.

[2] Jeffrey Lesser. Negotiating National Identity : Immigrants, Minorities, and the Struggle for Ethnicity in Brazil. Durham, N.C: Duke University Press, 1999. http://consort.library.denison.edu:80/record=b2074452~S6.

[3] Conrad, Robert. “The Planter Class and the Debate over Chinese Immigration to Brazil, 1850- 1893.” International Migration Review 9, no. 1 (1975): 41. https://doi.org/10.2307/3002529.

[4] Dantas, Sylvia Duarte. “An Intercultural Psychodynamic Counselling Model: A Preventive Work Proposition for Plural Societies.” Counselling Psychology Quarterly 24, no. 1 (March 2011): 1–14. https://doi.org/10.1080/09515070.2010.529653.

[5] “Brazil Wants Chinese: The Government Arranging Already with the Emporor for Immigrants.” July 5, 1893.

[6] Bernard Wong, Chee-Beng Tan. Chinatowns around the World: Glided Ghetto, Ethnopolis, and Cultural Diaspora. 1st ed. Brill, 2014. http://consort.library.denison.edu:80/record=b4424356~S6.

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