Talk:Shin-Soo Choo

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Trade: Official yet?[edit]

It would be beneficial for all of us to discuss this instead of simply reverting over and over until someone gets blocked. AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 02:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Per MLB .com it is it was on intentional talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

It does seem to be official.[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 03:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, good. Now maybe we can look into the article naming situation. AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 03:10, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved by Y2kcrazyjoker4. --BDD (talk) 19:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Choo Shin-SooShin-Soo ChooDucati748 has twice moved this article to it's current location, a move with which I don't think I agree. His rationale is this: Since he was born in Korea, raised in Korea, and spent most of his life in Korea, his name is CHOO Shin-Soo. Family name appears first for Koreans. eg., and then his edit summary runs out (Apparently, he also thinks that at least some of us don't know anything). He may be right about the naming business, but it just seems to me that we should title the article with the name we use when talking about the player. I'm not sure about that, maybe policy disagrees with me, but I'd at least like to see it discussed (politely too). AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 04:10, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

NB. I'd suggest WP:RM/TR for moves over hyphen redirects for these 4x articles Cha-Seung Baek, Jae-Kuk Ryu, Jae-Weong Seo, Chan-Ho Park for clarity for American readers and indeed Korean-speakers reading in English, at the moment these names fail WP:PRECISION between 백차승 vs. 차승백 etc. Impossible to tell which is surname without the hyphen that, given baseball context, means it could be either order. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll let somebody else who understands those a little better handle them. However, I am curious as to what NB stands for? AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 05:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, just Nota bene. I've put them in for RM at Talk:Cha Seung Baek. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:16, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 18:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. Articles should be listed according to their most common English language usage. Spanneraol (talk) 19:28, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support This is the English Wikipedia, not the Korean Wikipedia. I'm sure that this individual should be named the Korean language equivalent of "Choo Shin-Soo" on the Korean wiki, and should be listed as "Shin-Soo Choo" on the English wiki, as this is the only way I've ever seen him referred to in English sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Just so it's clear where I stand and I'm now convinced I was right. AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 20:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support – User who moved it claims that "he was born in Korea, raised in Korea, and spent most of his life in Korea" and therefore his surname should go first. This is false. WP should be following the common name of a player, which means the one he is commonly referred to in English. refers to Choo with his surname last, just like it does with Chan Ho Park, Byung-Hyun Kim and Ichiro Suzuki (and not Suzuki Ichiro as it is in Japanese). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - I thought I already commented here, but that may have been the James Loney discussion, they all run together. Anyway, per the rationale above, I support the move back to the original title. Go Phightins! 03:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I've commented on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean), but honestly I think WikiProject Korea should be at least given a teeny bit of acknowledgement by WP:Baseball here, and vice-versa. The solution above seems livable, the current state of Talk:Cha Seung Baek isn't serving anyone. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Wow. You people (Eurocentrists) are quite amazing. Apparently, you believe the "English" language exists only in NA and Europe. Check this article written in English. [1] That's the only requirement, correct? Any English paper written in East Asia will refer to him Choo Shin-soo. Ducati748 (talk) 03:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)


Why is his name in given-name, family-name order in the Hangul version? (talk) 04:29, 10 January 2018 (UTC)