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Zeus[edit]

Zeus at Olympia: "In his right hand a figure of Victory made from ivory and gold. In his left hand, his scepter inlaid with all metals, and an eagle perched on the sceptre. The sandals of the god are made of gold, as is his robe." —Pausanias. What's the connection with Christ Pantocrator, holding the book and blessing? Just a bearded male? Can we eliminate this fancy from the text? Or are more specific connections made? --Wetman 04:06, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Agreed - The only relationship I can see is that they are both images of deities. No one is claiming that Christianity invented religious iconography, so do we need such a clumsy comparison? Cravenmonket 21:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I did a rough merge from Christ Pantokrator. If anyone can, please do whatever edits necessary to make the article look better. Take care. talk to +MATIA 08:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • A brief article, by John Watson, "The Icons of St. Catherine's Monastery in Egypt's Sinai" (google it) has been silently deleted from the references section, apparently because its host site is a blacklisted commercial site, www.touregypt.net. which hosted Wikipedia's St Catherine's icon image. Fortunately I've been able to refer to an article in The Art Bulletin, which only a few readers will be able to access, however. So, why should I care? I have access to JSTOR! --Wetman 05:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It can be seen here: www.touregypt.net/featurestories/catherines2-1.htm Johnbod 12:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Wikipedia[edit]

Could we try and see how the icon of Christ Pantocrator might look in the Christianity portal image? The one you have is nice, but this one is more recognizable, and Christ looks cooler.

I know this sounds childish, but I think it would be more befitting. You may want to give it a shot, just to see how it looks.

Thanks. Peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.163.5 (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I also suggestion to the representations shown in this article. I would like for one of you to insert this representation of "Christ Pantocrator/Pantokrator"; http://diglib.library.vanderbilt.edu/diglib-viewimage.pl?SID=2013031389843750&code=&RC=47430&Row=&code=act&return=act The representation of Christ holding the very rare "orb with a cross", seems to show a broader view of this subject. Regards, 96.19.147.40 (talk) 21:17, 13 March 2013 (UTC)Ronald L. Hughes

Composite of the Saint Catherine's icon[edit]

I hope everyone will find this useful. I know it makes it much easier for me to see what the artist was doing, especially with the removal of deterioration damage to the right eye. Since the expression was almost totally forward-facing, it was not a difficult project. However, there is neck distortion which is typical for these. I did not change the neck or the lower part of the picture in order to minimize the changes from the original piece. However, I can see some value in making a composite that retains the original's lower part of the painting (the single hand, the proper neck, and the single book). If there is interest I will make one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustinGBX (talkcontribs) 17:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

File:ISR-2013-Jerusalem-Holy Sepulchre-dome.jpg to appear as POTD soon[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:ISR-2013-Jerusalem-Holy Sepulchre-dome.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on May 14, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2016-05-14. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Christ Pantocrator
A view (directly overhead) of the Christ Pantocrator in the dome of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Old City of Jerusalem. In Christian iconography, Christ Pantocrator is a translation of both YHWH Sabaoth ("Lord of Hosts") and for El Shaddai ("God Almighty"). This was one of the earliest icons of the Early Christian Church, and in Byzantine church art and architecture, a mosaic or fresco of Christ Pantokrator occupies the space in the central dome. Today Christ Pantocrator remains a central icon of the Eastern Orthodox Church.Photograph: Andrew Shiva


Need more explanation[edit]

I know that there is a lot of meaning conveyed by this icon, for example that Christ's right hand is raised in a blessing, and he is spelling out an acronym of his name, and that his left hand is holding the gospels. But I don't have a reliable source to include this sort of information in Wikipedia. But, most importantly, how does this icon convey "Pantocrator" - that aspect of Christ? That sort of information seems essential to this article. TomS TDotO (talk) 16:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Have you tried reading it? It's all in there, if briefly. Johnbod (talk) 16:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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