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History section[edit]

History would be nice. I'm wondering how Lutheranism spread from Germany to Scandinavia. Ernestleonard 08:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:State churches (Christian) vs. Category:Church of Denmark[edit]

Category:Church of Denmark is itself a category within Category:State churches (Christian). — Robert Greer (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dissent from conservatives[edit]

The article should really consider looking into whether there has ever been any doctrinal dissent from conservatives within the Church of Denmark, who might feel alienated about decisions surrounding the ordination of women or the blessing of same-sex marriages. It is possible to imagine that if this dissent were not healed, many of these conservatives would consider forming their own ecclesial community, which might be tempted to reunite with the Catholic Church, such as recently seen with the Traditional Anglican Communion. ADM (talk) 15:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course there is forexample the Tidehverv movement and inner mission.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Church of England kept many Catholic elements after its reformation, while the Danish church is strictly protestant of the German/Nordic variety. So I think it is pretty safe to say that there will not be any calls for reunion with the Catholic church from either side. But it is correct that there has been some (low level) skirmishes between conservative and liberal sides of the clergy about the issues you mention, and this could be included in the article if sources can be found. Saddhiyama (talk)
Is there a better reference available to verify the 1948 ordination of a woman as a Lutheran pastor in Denmark than the present ref which is really about gay marriage, with just an aside about female ordination? She may be the first female Lutheran pastor to be ordained in the world, although a timeline in Ordination of women says some unidentified Lutheran body ordained a woman in 1947. Could it be that the Danish church authorized such ordinations in 1947 and the first one did not take place until 1948? A lot is known about the first three female Luther pastors ordained in Sweden in 1960, the first in Norway in 1961, and the first in the USA in 1970, but the apparent first of all is a mystery. It seems likely that that there would have been some coverage of it in Danish newspapers in 1948. Could someone please search newspaper archives in that language? Thanks! Edison (talk) 00:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This work written by a panel of named writers for a Lutheran conference in the US in 1970 says under "Lutheran orthodoxy" that the Danish church authorized female ordination in 1947 and the first occurrence was in 1948. That would seem to be the world's first. But again, who and where? Edison (talk) 01:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A source (in Danish) for the date and names of the 3 first female priests is available through "The Great Danish Encyclopaedia" ("Den Store Danske Encyklopædi"). Part of this encyclopaedia is the "Danish Biographical Lexicon" ("Dansk Biografisk Leksikon") which has an entry about one of these first 3 female priests, Johanne Andersen. It includes a brief summary about the debate on female clergy leading up to the ordination on April 28th, 1948 of Johanne Andersen, Edith Brenneche Petersen and Ruth Vermehren by bishop Hans Øllgaard in St. Canute's Cathedral, the cathedral of Odense. See:
http://www.denstoredanske.dk/Dansk_Biografisk_Leksikon/Kirke_og_tro/Sognepr%C3%A6st/Johanne_Andersen
http://www.denstoredanske.dk/Dansk_Biografisk_Leksikon/Kirke_og_tro/Biskop/H._%C3%98llgaard
Mojowiha (talk) 06:08, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A list of the 14 first female priests in Denmark: Ruth Vermehren (b. 27.10.1894), ordained 28th of April 1948, Edith Brenniche Petersen (b. 02.02.1896), ordained 28th of April 1948, Johanne Andersen (b. 11.09.1913), ordained 28th of April 1948, Helga Jensen (b. 14.09.1923), ordained 15th of February 1956 in Budolfi Church in Aalborg by bishop Erik Jensen, Elisabeth Fabricius (b. 1926), ordained 1957 by bishop Hans Øllgaard, Solvejg Bording (b. 1907), ordained 3rd of October 1958 in Maribo Cathedral by bishop Høgsbro, Ulla Heje (b. 18.09.1926), ordained 1959 in Ribe Cathedral by bishop Henrik Dons Christensen, Lis Rechendorff (b. 29.07.1934), ordained 1961 in Saint Olaf's Church in Elsinore by bishop Jens Leer Andersen, Alice Jespersen (b. 1928), ordained 1960 ro 1961 in Aarhus Cathedral by bishop Skat Hoffmeyer, Inger Malmstrøm (b. 25.04.1912), ordained 1961 in Saint Olaf's Church in Elsinore by bishop Jens Leer Andersen, Karen Horsens (b. 18.09.1932), ordained in 1962 in Frederiksberg Slotskirke (situated in Frederiksberg Palace) by bishop Willy Westergaard Madsen, Marie Christoffersen (f. 1904), ordained 8th of December 1963 (29 years after she had become Cand.theol.), Lisbet Juul Nicolaisen (b. 1938), ordained 1963 or 1964 & Birgitte Berg (b. 1937), ordained 1964. None of these 14 had reached a position as the official vicar of a parish by the end of 1964. In stead they served either as priests in special institutions, or seperate congregations or as either deacon, chaplain or resident chaplain. Source: Politikens Årbog 1965 Hvem Hvad Hvor, 1964, pp. 177-179. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 12:55, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Queen as head of the church?[edit]

The danish constitution (Grundlov) states that the King (an office presently held by the Queen) must be a member of the evangelical-lutheran church. It does not state that she is the head of it in any other way than as the formal employer of the minister of church.

I've been trying to find some other law to support the claim, but am unable, so for now I'll add a "Dubious"-tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockbear (talk • contribs) 11:06, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found a ref that states that she, alongside the Folketinget (presumably as her position as the head of state and thus her nominal authority over the parliament), is the supreme authority of the church, but she is not the head of it. --Saddhiyama (talk) 11:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Same-sex marriage[edit]

Ten of eleven bishops have now developed the required liturgy for same-sex marriages, which will be legal as of June 15, 2012. Reference is the Copenhagen Post: http://cphpost.dk/news/national/you-may-now-kiss-groom. I am not familiar with editing articles on Wikipedia so I will leave this to those better versed. 74.83.14.59 (talk) 01:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Historical episcopate[edit]

This gives the impression that the Danish bishops are in the apostolic succession, which is not the case. The first Danish superintendents (later called bishops) where consecrated by Johannes Bugenhagen, who was not himself a bishop.--Klausok (talk) 15:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Founding dates for dioceses[edit]

I wonder what principles lie behind the years given for the founding of dioceses. At the reformation, the old division into dioceses, as well as the name "stift" for a diocese, was retained, though the title "biskop"/"bisp" was abandoned for a short time. Yet some of the old dioceses, e.g. Viborg (founded in 1065) are listed as founded at the reformation, while others , e.g. Aarhus, are listed with the founding date of the Catholic diocese. The ancient Roskilde stift was renamed Zealand's stift at the reformation, and later split into Roskilde and Copenhagen. Why list Copenhagen's stift as founded at the reformation and Roskilde as founded at the split rather than the reverse? Why not list Roskilde as founded in the middle ages, as is done for Ribe, which has also later been split? --Klausok (talk) 20:00, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Why is this article under Church of Denmark? Is that really the most common name in English?? Unlike Sweden (Svenska Kyrkan) and Norway (Den norske kirke) the name of the nationality isn't included in the official name of the church, it's simply called The People's Church (Folkekirken). See e.g. the Ministry of Church: http://www.km.dk/folkekirken/ The church uses the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Denmark as their official name in English (which is descriptive of what it is, but far from its Danish name).--Batmacumba (talk) 00:36, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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