Talk:Claremont Graduate University

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Claiming as alumni three people whose only connection to the school is that they received honorary degrees is pretty lame. The reason it matters if someone noteworthy is an alum is that presumably the school played a part in making him into the noteworthy person he became. Someone who just shows up one day -- after becoming noteworthy, no less -- for a ceremony doesn't have this kind of connection. Besides, some people have dozens of honorary degrees and is makes no sense to say that they are alumni of each school which gave them one.

The lists of notable alumni and faculty need some information about why these individuals are notable. Aside from Peter Drucker and, to a lesser extent, Kip Thorne (who's only an honorary alum anyway) none of the people listed has much name recognition among the public.

Agreed. I'm going to rename the faculty list "notable faculty" and remove all the profs w/o articles. I also removed Mohammed Arkoun, Robert Lawrence Kuhn, and Robert Williamson from the list because I couldn't find evidence that they taught at CGU. This doesn't mean that everyone left on the list is notable, however. MrVibrating (talk) 15:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

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Duplicate list of noted people[edit]

There is a list of notable alumni and faculty at both the main article and at List of Claremont Graduate University people. There is not a need for duplicate information and the list at the main article is beginning to overwhelm the overall article. I am removing but wanted to explain here and open up for further discussion. Alanraywiki (talk) 23:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Significant Revision[edit]

The whole contents of both the University and the Noted People pages have been revised. -- Wildcursive (talk) 07:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Unsourced claim about WASC complaint[edit]

One or more unregistered editors have tried several times to add material to this article about an unspecified student complaint that was allegedly made to WASC. Unfortunately, he or she has not ever supplied a source for this claim. This is an encyclopedia article so material must be adequately supported by reliable sources. It's possible that the material shouldn't be included in this article because it's simply not important enough but without a source we can't even make that judgment. ElKevbo (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Our colleague(s) is still not participating in discussion here or anywhere else but is citing this as a reference. It appears that this edit is being based on a user-submitted comment to that website. That is obviously not a reliable source. ElKevbo (talk) 21:54, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
??? I am confused: The statement that was written in this section read: "In 2012, a formal student complaint was submitted to the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). The complaint was unresolved, questioning the quality/value of the CGU Teacher preparation program." How is such statement unreliable and irrelevant? It can be true, factual and significant to research and for information purposes. Please explain what appears to be "censorship" of factual information to wikipedia readers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonsmith (talkcontribs) 23:07, September 20, 2015‎
First, the statement doesn't cite a source. Second, since it merely describes an unknown "complaint" by unknown parties for unknown reasons, it doesn't appear to merit inclusion in this encyclopedia article. Third, without any details it's pure conjecture to state anything beyond "a complaint was filed." ElKevbo (talk) 05:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

???What if the source is the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC), Barbara-Davis Gross, PhD? What if the source is the Associate Provost of Claremont Graduate University, Jacob Adams? What if the source is Ilene Foster, PhD, Claremont Graduate University Teacher Education program? Will that help to identify the sources you are referring? I thought in Wikipedia such information is allowed and others can back it up or refute such information? Merely describing "an unknown 'complaint' by unknown parties for unknown reasons,... as you state, does not mean that the information is non-factual. Therefore, such information should not be censored from Wikipedia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 12:30, September 21, 2015‎

The only "sources" we've been provided so far are unverified claims from an unknown person. Simply naming people is a far cry from actually providing reliable sources. Please don't readd this material to this article until you can provide legitimate, verifiable sources. ElKevbo (talk) 21:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Can you verify (ElKevbo) that the source written by simonsmith is untrue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

You haven't provided a source for anyone to verify. ElKevbo (talk) 01:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
-Elkevbo: You are inaccurate. You have not proven if the information is non-factual. You are no longer editing, but is contributing to censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4102:ABFE:BC45:8FB6:3301:D4D0 (talk) 11:52, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Simonsmith: Did Elkevbo verify that the information you presented is non-factual? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendly8967 (talkcontribs) 17:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Why hasn't Elkevbo responded to the above questions addressed? He continues to declare that a "source" has not been verified, but can not refute that CGU Teacher Education had an official student complaint to the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). Why is he so insistent on witholding information to Wikipedia readers that appears to be factual in the case of CGU Teacher Education program? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

It is my understanding that Elkevbo is burnt out and removed himself from Wikipedia review/comment. He needed to remove himself because he was not engaging in proper editing for information presented in Wikipedia. those who encouraged him ought to be ashamed of themselves as well. Arrogance ought not to be bliss by Wikipedia editors when accurate information is being presented. Touche,not.... Elkevbo! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:50, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

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