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Former good article nominee Cluttering was a Language and literature good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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I haven't heard that "inability to listen" is associated with cluttering. It sounds plausable but I'd like to see a reference.Tdkehoe 17:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I hope they could describer better the way that cluttering manifest as you speak, I tend to change a letter on a world, specially when I'm nervous or tense, like in a interview or on a date so the worst moments to be doing that and it has really bad implications on my life, but I could not understand by what was writing about cluttering if my problem is included or it's something also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:17, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

The phrase "simply being unsure of what one wants to say." doesn't belong. I've never seen that in the literature and it sounds pejorative.Tdkehoe 17:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

As a person who does clutter I can see that this is very true. I often find myself thinking of better words for a subject. So rather than store I might say grocery store but while my mind is processing that I might say 'g, g ... place where you shop for groceries', I have of course gotten much better over the years, but if someone knows me long enough they will notice that I do this, either that or I will speak at an insane rate of speed, this happens more often when I am doing several things at once or also contiplating something else while talking to a person. Quazywabbit 01:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Does someone have a transcript and/or sound file that provides a good example of cluttering? I think that would be a valuable improvement to the article. (talk) 13:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

unsure of what one wants to say[edit]

This is a quote from the most famous piece and most widely distributed piece of literature on cluttering, a pamphlet produced by the Stuttering Foundation, and written by Dr. St. Louis. It is in the first paragraph of that pamphlet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fredsmith2 (talkcontribs) 17:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Howdy i have something i think needs to be addressed[edit]

HI I don't mean to complain and im not even sure if there is a problem But it seems like they make clutters out as bad thing or with a negative spin on it

-Article reads like it was written by a pissed off stutterer. Is there some kind of stutterer/clutterer rivalry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that there is a surplus of information here about stuttering that actually makes the article more confusing to people who are trying to get a handle on cluttering. If I want to read about stuttering, I'll just go to the stuttering article... since I'm here, I'd rather read about cluttering. I also agree that there may be some POV stuff going on here in associating certain personality traits with stuttering vs. cluttering. It seems more likely that stuttering/cluttering give a misleading impression of certain personality traits due to the disconnect between what the person is thinking/feeling and what actually comes out. (talk) 13:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Overlapping articles[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was not to merge the two articles. Bilby (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

There's an article about Cluttered speech that to me seems mostly overlapping. Shouldn't they be merged? The Seventh Taylor (talk) 18:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, they should - I've placed merge templates on the articles to alert people to this. Terraxos (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I think you should merge them. They are similar, aren't they? --Mark Chung (talk) 06:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Cluttered speech would be better merged into voice disorders. Cluttering is about the specific speech disorder, not a list of various speech disorders, ailments, or symptoms, like cluttered speech. Fredsmith2 (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I am against merging, because Cluttering is a disorder, whereas cluttered speech can happen to anybody. Lova Falk talk 16:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree, the articles describe two related but different things, and are distinct enough to warrant their own articles. Kyoakoa (talk) 16:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.


Suggestions for improvement of the cluttering page[edit]

To me, it seems that the article page clearly helps define what cluttering is and how it is different from stuttering. However, it does seem to fail to clarify in detail more options for diagnosing cluttering and the various treatment options. The article gives simple and somewhat vague answers to the proper treatments and diagnosis of this language disorder. I suggest in order to further improve this page to list some actual techniques used for proper diagnosis of cluttering as well as adding further information to the treatments of cluttering — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drew7182643 (talkcontribs) 22:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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