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Alternative version of the image (from Polish Prime Ministers' site). Halibutt 00:22, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Coat of Arms

Rosettes[edit]

Polish wikipedia says: Powszechnie mniemano, że rozety (brane za pięcioramienne gwiazdki) na skrzydłach orła także były "sowieckim wynalazkiem", ale w rzeczywistości powstały one w wyniku niedokładnego skopiowania wzoru z 1927. I think we should decide if it was done on purpose or not and appropriately correct the article.Przepla 14:31, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I don't think we need to decide. The fact is that they changed the rosettes to a more star-shaped thingie. Perhaps it needs a little explanation, but we won't find any sources that would say "we did it on purpose" or the contrary. Halibutt 21:36, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Blazon[edit]

I think that describing eagle as 'white' is mistake. I never heard of exception for polish CoA. In my opinion it should blazoned as 'Gules an eagle displayed Argent crowned and armed Or'. --Gopher78 21:20, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Not really, this is one of the exceptions since the eagle itself is called Orzeł Biały ("White Eagle" or rather "Eagle White", if one translates the inversion as well) in both common language and heraldry. Also, note that Polish heraldry uses a slightly different blazon system, with colours much less limited to the "standard seven" used in Great Britain or France. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 21:53, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

What would be the correct Western-style blazon? Correct me, if I'm wrong:

Gules, an eagle displayed argent, crowned, beaked, and armed or. – Kpalion (talk) 20:05, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Gwiazdeczki[edit]

"the new communist regime removed the crown from the Eagle’s head and replaced (perhaps accidentally) the rosettes on its wings with stars"

To bardzo ciekawy punkt, posiada ktos wiecej informacji na ten temat? Z tego co ja wiem, "gwiazdki" powstaly przypadkowo, bez pro-sowieckich zamiarow--Witkacy 23:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Wlasnie, czy ja jestem slepy czy wszystkie orly w naszym artykule maja te same gwiazdy? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:09, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Hmm nie wiem do czego dokladnie nawiazujesz - chodzi o te "piecioramienne gwiazdki" (bynajmniej to co wyglada jak gwiazdka) w orginale [1] sa mniej "gwiazdko podobne". Ciekawi mnie jak wygladal (dokladnie) orzelek ktory zostal wprowadzony w 1927 - ponoc niewiele sie roznil od dzisiejszej formy. --Witkacy 22:05, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Hello. I have a photo of an oval exterior wall plaque from 1939, which shows the eagle with no crown. Unfortunately I don't know how to upload photos. Can anyone help explain this Eagle without a crown from 1939? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.58.164.129 (talk) 16:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Before 1939 there was a "legionary" Eagle in use, which had no crown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Orzelek_legionowy.jpg/150px-Orzelek_legionowy.jpg There were even coins minted with that one instead of the regular, crowned Eagle (silver 2, 5, 10 PLZ coins, with Marshal Piłsudski face on one side and the legionary Eagle on the other side). I know of no other example of a non-crowned Eagle from the interbellum period, but at the other hand I know that the crown was not such a big deal before the communist removal of it: until that, people generally knew that the White Eagle is the symbol of Poland, and that the official coat of arms is crowned, but it also might have been a matter of artistic vision whether to paint/carve the Eagle crowned or not. 159.205.56.119 (talk) 18:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Anti-polonic comment in description[edit]

What's the purpose of adding "In their attempts to denigrate the Polish people, the anti-polonist often described the eagle as the Polish Chicken or the Polish Goose" in description?

First. It has nothing to do with description what anti-polonist had to say about polish coat of arms.

Second. There is no source given to support this statement - what does "often" means? Once? Twice?

Third. The description of coat of arms should be focusing on coat of arms not on things "some" people said about it, especially if their words are offensive.

You're right. I didn't find any similar information in descriptions of other national coats of arms (e.g. nobody wrote that German coat of arms (a black eagle) is sometimes spitefully called 'a black crow'). Why was it included here? I decided to remove that sentence. --Domikot 18:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

HEY HEY GOODBYE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.185.144.215 (talk) 15:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

CoA found in official site of Polish government[edit]

Coat of Arms from http://poland.gov.pl

I found this version of Polish CoA in official site of Polish government http://poland.gov.pl . I think that so far this version is the most similar to those presented in Polish law acts. Unfortunately it is not a vector format image, just very big .png one. Once I tried communicate with their web master in this matter, but the only message I received was to try get more information in Wikipedia (sic!). Follow by white rabbit (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Does Poland have a national bird?[edit]

Does Poland have a national bird? If so, is it the White Eagle like the one on the Coat of arms or is it the White Stork? OlEnglish (talk) 23:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

There is no particular species of bird that is generally recognized, let alone legally indicated, as a national bird. A concept of national bird, animal, flower, etc. doesn't really exist in Poland. The White Eagle is a heraldic symbol which is a different thing than a national bird.
I just looked at List of national birds and saw that it listed the white-tailed eagle as Poland's national bird. I promptly deleted this bit as nonsense. — Kpalion(talk) 10:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Polish Falcon reference[edit]

Until recently, all of my friends and myself referred to the White Eagle as the Polish Falcon. I researched the subject and was surprised to find all descriptions of the CoA as containing the white eagle. We have a Polish Hall here in Grand Rapids Michigan called the Polish Falcons. Where does the "Polish Falcon" reference originate? 184.203.162.87 (talk) 23:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)Anthony Bajdek

Perhaps you should read our article about Sokół. Please let us know if this answers your question. — Kpalion(talk) 09:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)