Talk:Commercial driver's license

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Need this not coprighted[edit]

I built this page and yes I used the Gov site [1] for info for this page. The only really copied material on this page is the driving laws, type of cdl classes and violations as these need to be in correct legal language.

  • I have called the government site in case point and have been assured I am not breaking any copyright laws. There aren't any copyright restrictions on the site.

I have given the Govertment's number to verify my statement is correct to an admin and can be accessed from my talk page if need.

I am requesting the copyright be taken off and the article.

God Bless --Supplements 14:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I reviewed this and I can't see any indication that this government site is copyrighted. It appears to be public domain. --Aguerriero (talk) 17:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Nice, well-written article! This is one of the subjects that needs to be written in the original language.--Lpimlott 19:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

HI, great article, I put a link in the resources section before but belive I did it incorrectly to begin with by using the wrong link. I apologize I just wasn't thinking. The site in question has a link to a free online cdl test that I thought would be relevant and useful for people using this resource, I'll add an external links section and create it in there. Regards, Mark.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Westwiki (talkcontribs)

Please read our guidelines at Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Spam before trying to add any more links to this or any other WP articles. -- Donald Albury 14:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Worldwide view?[edit]

Why does this article need a worldwide view? A CDL is only required in the United States. I think the sections about other countries should be deleted or link to their respective separate articles (if there are any). ErgoSum88 (talk) 08:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

That can be solved by moving the article to Commercial driver's license in the United States -- Donald Albury 12:29, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm... sounds fair enough. I'll see what I can do about that. I'm kinda new to this... so would it be um, ok for me to delete the sections on other countries? I'm also working on Truck driver so I could move them over there, but I was wondering how you go about deleting parts of articles without incurring anyone's wrath. Thanks for your help. ErgoSum88 (talk) 19:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Wait a few days to see what other editors have to say. We usually try do things by consensus after discussion. -- Donald Albury 01:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
it already says a CDL is required in the United States so there really is no need to move it to another article--Lpimlott (talk) 18:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

the WA section shoyuld either be expanded to cover all of australia or placed in its own article really, given the scope of this article is only the US CDL Whitfan (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this issue can be mitigated by coming up with a new name for this article? "CDL" sounds like a pretty generic term to me, but if we can come up with something else that isn't used by any one country alone, then maybe we can include all the different types of "truck driver" licenses from around the world. However, I have struggled to think of something but nothing comes to mind. If we just put a disclaimer at the top of the article pointing the readers to licenses from different countries, wouldn't that be enough? So far I see, Heavy Vehicle License, Passenger Carrying Vehicle, etc... I know here in America, truck drivers like to call themselves "professional drivers." How about "professional drivers license?" I dunno, maybe I'm just overthinking this. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 06:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I am linking this article from another, what I actually wanted was PSV, a UK license. I was suspicious that CDL realy was only a US term, but simple googling has shown no other hits. At the very least though, I think it is standard procedure to establish the US nature in a separate disambuation header in italics, should the non US material be removed elsewhere. Changing to "CDL of the US" is unneccesary if it no-one comes up with other uses of the exact term. On no accounts should it be just deleted. 'What links here' is a good way to establish where this article might be being used in a world/non US context. MickMacNee (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
CDL *is* a US-specific term. In most other countries, it's just a different class of license, whereas the US (for historical reasons having to do with the intersection of state/federal jurisdiction) makes a distinction between a commercial and non-commercial license.

Therefore, I believe:

  • The article's name is incorrect. The US DOT, the FHWSA and every US state CDL I've seen uses the term "Commercial Driver License". Most states further use the term "Driver License", not "Driver's License". The article should therefore be named "Commercial Driver License", not "Commercial Driver's License"
  • A US-centric view is appropriate because the topic is US-centric
  • Information pertaining to other countries should be merged with driver license sections for those other countries, or (where quantity warrants) receive their own article. For example, for the UK-centric term "Heavy Goods Vehicle", information on licensing for such vehicles belongs in that article, not here
  • Likewise, Australia's "MC" (multi-combination) licensing for road trains belongs in an article on Australian driver licensing, the article on Australian road trains, or perhaps both
  • This article needs massive cleanup, and I will attempt to do some of that later today, including photos of actual American tractor-trailers.

-Stian (talk) 21:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Garbage truck[edit]

What does a DSNY garbage truck go under and what endorsments do you need to drive one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

In any US state, a garbage truck is typically a heavy vehicle with air brakes. I've never seen one with a trailer. As such, you need a Class B CDL without an air brake restriction. No other endorsements should be necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stian (talkcontribs) 22:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

CDL renew[edit]

I know aman who has been a truck driver for 30 years and when he went to renew his CDL they told him you are not from the unitedstates. This man was born and rased in Keywest Florida all the way up till he was a teen he has surived in the navy a nd whin he got out he started to drive trucks. this man has sent all his info to Jefferson City and talked with them on the phone and told the woman at Missouri licenes office where he was born in Keywest Florida and she ask him was this in the unitedstates. I think this is something that needs to be told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry Payne (talkcontribs) 01:44, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds more like a fool at a driver's centre. They're not the smartest bunch there you know?!. In reality, it's probably a confusion issue over the newer inter-state regulations rather than a where you were born issue. It wasn't until the 80s that drivers needed a specific licence at all for trucks. More recently with the overhauls to the driver's regulations, across the United States, many interesting things are showing up. The new regulations are meant to make it easier for law enforcement to know what you're allowed to do from state to state (Class C in one state is Class 3 in another, 1 in a third, and A in yet another). As the same time, all sorts of things get in there. I had a parking ticket in Seattle from 1997 that only now, over 10 years later, is shown in the National Database; but I couldn't renew without paying the fine.
At the same time, something that shows up as KWFL in a database can, in theory, lead to confusion I guess. Or maybe she was just dumb. Who knows, but it's not encyclopaedic. Lostinlodos (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Formatting needs improvement[edit]

Section 6 "Contents" is poorly formatted. It is an attempt to provide a hierarchical bulleted lists, 3 levels deep, e.g. type="a", type="1" and type="i" (using the non-CSS syntax for ul/ol). I was going to edit it to change it to 3 types of bullets, but it seems that wikipedia's syntax for bulleted lists is grossly inadequate. I guess that's why the author of that section formatted it so poorly. Anyway, I give up - perhaps someone else can format it using wikipedia's odd syntax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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United States - "after 1986 ..." incorrect[edit]

It looks like someone copied the Idaho state regulations directly from footnote 4 and provided them here as nationwide/federal law. That is not correct. I unfortunately don't have time to find/write a correction right now because it would be complicated to get right. Just wanted to mention this and hope someone notices it. Sparr (talk) 23:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC)