Talk:Commercial offshore diving
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This article makes unbalanced assertions about the safety of the industry, some of which are uncited. There is a strong emphasis on Norway, whereas the industry is worldwide. There is room for improvement. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- What is the most unbalanced assertion about safety in your view? --Pan of steel (talk) 10:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
This article says this is the most dangerous form of professional diving but the page on professional diving says that HAZMAT diving is the most dangerous and sewer diving is the most dangerous form of HAZMAT diving. I suspect that sewer diving is in fact the most dangerous, but I am not sure enough to edit this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
- The hazards are different, and the risks vary depending on the exact circumstances. In the absence of statistics to support any one mode of diving being measurably more dangerous, I think that the claims should be modified to high risk, or just dangerous instead of most dangerous. The most dangerous conditions are the ones that are fatal. Commercial diving is an occupation where fatalities are rare, and occupational health and safety authorities are watching for contraventions. Technical diving is probably significantly more dangerous at the extreme exposures, and military combat diving during war is probably the most dangerous of all. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Focus of article
This article seems to be mostly about historical safety and exploitation issues on Norwegian offshore oilfields, and not really much about that. There is probably more about actual offshore diving in other articles.
The article should be rewritten and expanded to fit the topic, or renamed to fit the content, or merged into another article. I have no strong opinions as to which would be the better route. At the moment it is moribund and misleading. I do not have the skills in Norwegian to improve the historical value of the only content that is unique to this article, nor the interest, knowledge or experience to build a decent article to fit the title.
July 2016 expansion
Very good work, Peter. The diagrams are especially clear, but do remember that screen-readers can't see them, so it is helpful to make sure that you reiterate the points in the text as well.
I think the following terms would benefit from further explanation, preferably within the article:
- blow-out preventer linked
- permanent guide base clarified
- BOP stack clarified and linked
- marine risers clarified and linked
- all production rig types There is an article on production platforms it has been linked.
- jack-up rigs linked
- scour created new article and linked
- stinger linked and clarified
- grout bagging
- constant tension wires clarified
- microwave surface stations (Artemis) linked and clarified
- IMCA guidance clarified
- Concrete mattresses linked
- Frond mattresses linked
I'd also recommend that you avoid phrases like "Trenching has been mentioned above" in Commercial offshore diving #Pipeline stabilisation. The order of sections is never fixed in Wikipedia, so a future reorganisation of the article, however unlikely, could make a nonsense of the phrase. It would be better to explain directly how trenching has an effect on pipeline stabilisation, even if it may seem obvious. HTH --RexxS (talk) 15:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments. Helpful as usual. I was worried that explaining those terms in detail would be too much detail not directly related to the diving, as they are more oil production and engineering technology, but I suppose that where there is no Wikipedia article to link they should be explained. It is surprising how much of this stuff is not yet on Wikipedia. I may have to create some more articles. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 21:39, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
American system of training and offshore work practices
I understand that this is different to most of the rest of the world, but I am unfamiliar with the details. Anyone who knows enough about it is invited to contribute. If you are an expert or knowledgeable about the subject but have a conflict of interest, feel welcome to discuss recommended edits on this talk page and I or other unconflicted editors will make the changes. Bear in mind that references are needed. we cannot simply take your word - it is not allowed. Anyone who can recommend good and accessible sources/references can also list them here. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:32, 8 July 2016 (UTC)