Talk:Saponaria officinalis

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The site quoted lists various other plants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackiespeel (talkcontribs) 16:47, 15 June 2005


Damn, this was one quickly well-made page!--Irishpunktom\talk 18:39, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Syntax & Semantics[edit]

The paragraph in the article that describes the saponin content appears to be missing a few words. I am unclear as to what was intended so I am hoping that the writer or someone else who knows what was meant has an alert set on this page.

Please come back and modify it. I will check back and if no-one appears in a month or so I will undertake to make it more comprehensible. Yes, I know it is perhaps minor in the scheme of the whole encyclopia but it is important to ensure that facts like these are correctly stated irrespective of any translation process.Celsius100 (talk) 02:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Common SoapwortSaponaria officinalis – Common Soapwort, the current name of the page is just one of a very large number of common names for this plant (ref 2, the RHS Plant Selector page). The current page title is not even the most commonly used online: Google searches list 6,540 hits for "common soapwort" versus 35,400 hits for "bouncing bet" (which usually shows up with "soapwort" but not "common soapwort"). As per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (flora), the scientific name should be used in such a case (though it is also true that the scientific name is far more common in Google hits, with 226,000). Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Support; multiple widely used common names make the scientific name a good choice for article title. "Soapwort" is a more commonly used name than "common soapwort", but is ambiguous with the genus. Plantdrew (talk) 18:23, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support "Common soapwort" is a 'fake' common name – an English name made up to distinguish species commonly just called "soapwort". To expand a little, in the case of birds, where there is a single internationally agreed list of such made-up names, there is a case for using them as article titles. In the case of plants, where at best there is only national agreement on such made-up names, there isn't. A Saponaria species which is common in one country may not be in another, making this a bad article title for an international encyclopaedia. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.