Talk:Communications Security Establishment

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The reference to 'National Defense Dept.' is not clear to me.

 They answer to the Minister of National Defence (with a "C" ;) )
 as you can see here:

Recently dead link[edit]

This web page recently went offline; I'm noting it here in case it resurfaces...

— Matt 08:07, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

As I understood it the actual name is CSE:National Defense. That's what I have seen CSE called on their collective agreements when I worked at a federal labour law library. Dan Carkner

They seem to use "Communications Security Establishment" on their website. Their FAQ says, "2. When was CSE established? A:

CSE was formally established, by an Order-in-Council, in 1946 as the Communications Branch, National Research Council. In 1975, it was renamed the Communications Security Establishment and moved to the National Defence portfolio". I'd hazard an uninformed guess that the qualifier "National Defence" indicates what department of government the agency falls under. — Matt Crypto 19:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


They're still in the Sir Leonard Tilley Building, not the Sir Edward Drake building (see However, they are slowly moving (expanding) back into the SED.

Maybe a part of the Canadian part of ECHELON could be incorporated here? They're a little off with some of the numbers, though. As for the source of the 1600+ staff, see

The press kit ( gives 2004 numbers at 1200 people, budget of almost $200CAD, almost double the $110CAD stated in the ECHELON page.

The biannual Ottawa Artsfest is also the only way I know of that a person can gain access to the building and at least walk through the halls. This is quite a treat, since in 2004, they had a Cray MP in one of the foyers, and in 2006, a Cray X-MP/24 (like the Y-MP but with dark blue instead of red panels).

I don't really know what kind of information should go into the CSE page, but I've been there (2004, 2006) and I have a friend who works there.

Redirection from CSE[edit]

CSE should go to the disambiguation page. There are too many other CSE's and I don't think this one is notable enough to have CSE go directly here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andareed (talkcontribs) 22:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


I've cited 4 more lines to increase the validity of some of the contents. Jon202ca (talk) 14:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

prism and org. crime, and telephone surveillance hacks.[edit]

In recent years in southern BC the telephone systems operators have been repeatedly advised of cell phone hacking by org. crime. when the RCMP was asked to refer the matter to CSE, the officer refused and due to vast and layers of intense corruption in the RCMP due to drugs, infiltration etc. the RCMP failed even make the minimal effort to assist those who were making the complaints. in Obamas version of reality, org. crime can't use judges, crown attorney, police etc. cell phone hacking by security forces to defeat the law? opinions welcome184.70.114.90 (talk) 20:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Portuguese link not going to Communications Security Establishment[edit]

The portuguese link of this page is being directed to a soccer club and not to "Communications Security Establishment" which would be the correct portuguese version of the page. It is being redirected (wrongly) to "Clube Sociedade Esportiva". Can anyone correct this? I did try but couldn't - it always return to the soccer club.thank you.Talencar (talk) 07:22, 15 April 2014 (UTC)Talencar

As per previous topic, "The portuguese link of this page is being directed to a soccer club and not to "Communications Security Establishment" which would be the correct portuguese version of the page. It is being redirected (wrongly) to "Clube Sociedade Esportiva".". Can this be corrected? I also couldn't and it always return to the soccer club.Thank you. RACHNEL1000 (talk) 12:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)RACHNEL1000

Official Shield[edit]


I noticed that the official shield does not exactly match the English translation, that is, I think it would be better if the shield read "informationem" rather than "nuntium." I think "nuntium" is more like "announcement." You might like to pass that on to the agency, as presumptuous as it may seem.

Of course, the shield was probably designed by an expert in Latin...

Adios, (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)