Talk:Communist Party of Cuba

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The official history (badly translated by google) mentions entities under different names that merged. Secretlondon 23:35, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

i'm getting my info from http://search.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=25395&tocid=0&query=fulgencio%20batista&ct=

Morwen 23:34, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

Needs more working doing on it - which I will do later Secretlondon 23:35, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

Hopefully I've decoded it ok. Seems to fit History of Cuba and Fidel Castro. Morwen 23:44, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

I deleted the phrase claiming a Cuban/Angolan/Soviet victory over South African forces at Cuito Cuanavale. There are far to many conflicting accounts that indicate a tactical victory by SADF forces and the inflicting of hundreds of casualties by the SADF on the Cuban/Angolans. In the interests of fairness I've made the commentary on this neutral. Virgil61 07:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Removed the victory at cuito cuanavale[edit]

The Battle is extremely disputed and an MPLA/Cuban victory is questioned. The Battle started with an advance of Cuban and Angolan forces which were then repelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.18.252.176 (talk) 13:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Largely absent has been the development of a personality cult.[edit]

I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker so I probably misunderstand. Do you mean "Largery present ...?" Xx236 15:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Machados role[edit]

Machado was a member of the Liberal Party and did not participate along with Mella and others to establish the communist party. Take a look at e.g. http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/machado.htm Jan R 01:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


LANCE WROTE

This entire article is incorrect. The Communist Party in Cuba is restricted to 20% of the seats.

I suggest all of those involved witj this article read Dalhousie Professor Isaac Saney's book "Cuba - A Revolution in Motion".


Cuba has a "One Party" non-confrontational democratic government. While Raul is a member of the Communist Party.. his brother Fidel who has consistently been elected President of the Government is not a member of the Communist party.

Read Saney's book and get your head around a form of government similar to a University student council where everyone works together to head forward.

What you have presented here is pretty much a regurgitation of US / CIA propaganda.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meraloma (talkcontribs) date.

Fidel Castro certainly is a member of the Communist party. He is the first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Cuba [1]-- Zleitzen(talk) 18:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

First Secretary?[edit]

I notice that an IP editor changed the position of party leader and First Secretary from Fidel to Raul Castro. I have reverted this change. I've done some searching around and see no evidence that this transition of office has ever taken place. Raul has succeeded Fidel as president, but I think the top two Communist Party offices remain the same, at least in title, even if Fidel is no longer active in a leadership role. Peter G Werner (talk) 00:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

fact tagging[edit]

It's well known that F. Castro, et. al., developed whatever Marxist Leninist theoretical pretensions they may have had or do have after the fact of the Cuban revolution. In fact the Cuban revolution is just the most complete example of a bourgeois national liberation regime with Marxist trappings, basically an ideological skin for a rule by a New Class composed of that section of the Cuban bourgeoisie that the Castro brothers led. It's even much less authentically Marxist than the Soviet Union after Stalin and basically adopted it opportunistically as a foreign graft in reaction to the threat from the US rather than as an expression of an organic native communist or socialist movement. Unlike the DPRK, Republic of Vietnam, etc. where cadres were established decades before the actual revolution, if there were any such in Cuba they were not continuous with the Castro regime. Put fact tags on the statements which assert the opposite. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 07:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Has anyone actually checked how many of the MP's are formal party members?[edit]

@Nick.mon:, here you added statistics, claiming that 100% of the MP's (delegates to the National Assembly) are members of the Communist party of Cuba. Did you check this with someone who hasn't assumed that it must be so by not understanding the formal system?

I do not in any manner question that the C.P. has an absolute 100% informal control of the assembly. However, formally, any party is barred from participating as a party in the election. Since the C.P. controls the nomination committee which ultimately picked the 612 candidates for the 612 seats in the assembly, it indeed has full control. However, what I want to know is how it choose to exert this control. Did it really decide to pick only party members?

I'm old enough to remember that in the Supreme Soviet there usually were some non-party members. The reason, I believe, had to do with trying to increase the legimacy of the election process, in the eyes of the electorate and of foreigners. (I'm not claiming that this stratagem was very successful.) Have you checked how the Cubans handle this; or did you add the number "612 out of 612" merely by surmise? JoergenB (talk) 00:32, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Maybe I made a mistake, I saw on other pages on Wikipedia, for example here, in which was written that the CPC had the 100% of seats in the Assembly, but maybe it is not correct; I am not sure of this. So it will be great if you find a source where is explained the exact composition of the Cuban Assembly, because probably you have right, and the CPC have not got the 100% of seats in the Parliament. -- Nick.mon (talk) 8:27, 11 August 2014 (UTC
Well, the timing seems to be wrong, for this particular instance; but, let's anyhow pass the question.
@Trust Is All You Need:, when you introduced this claim here, together with a lot of other information about the C.P. parliamentary representation, did you have a source for the claim thatt all Cuban MP's were party members? (If you incidently used the statement in Communist Party of Cuba which @Nick.mon: added the month before, then we're not helped. If you have some independent source, we might be.) JoergenB (talk) 09:52, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I tried to look a little at official Cuban texts about their MP's. I didn't find much; some links were stale. Here is a brief description of the composition of the 2008 assembly (in Spanish, which I suppose at least you Italians can read). As you can see, there is nothing about party membership there. Fooling around a little from that address, I found lists with names, photos, and brief CV's for `candidates'; I do not know if this was for the 2008 or the 2013 election; and I glanced at the Havanna candidates. A few stated that they had joined the party this or that year. Many others of them didn't mention this, but did mention wotking in party positions at one or another level; which implies membership. A few did not; these persons seemed to be locally employed, coming from the municipality assemblies, and might also add merits like "chairman of the local CDR" (which really is a rather small unit). Such candidates probably belonged to those put up on the lists by the municipality assemblies. The national election nomination committees get such lists from the municipality assemblies on the one hand, and from the "mass organisations" on the other (higher level trade unions, CDR, organisations for women, youth, farmers, et cetera); and the nomination committe is obligued to chhose from these lists in general, and to a certain percentage from municipal assembly delegates in particular. (Since there is some real choice involved for voters at the municipality level, this very very indirectly may introduce a very tiny bit of electorate influence on the parlament.) It is not impossible that some of the latter candidates were not party members; I just note that they didn't include membership or party work in their CV's. That's as far as I got. JoergenB (talk) 11:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
@JoergenB: I literally copied that info from the Communist Party of Cuba article itself... I tried now, unsuccessfully, to find out on Cuba's parliament own website (but the site is under maintenance)... But yes, you're probably right - I don't believe either that all of the members are PCC members (since Cuba has a very "liberal" electoral system, if comparing to other existing and former communist states)... I'll try and find out. --TIAYN (talk) 13:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Do you read Spanish? I noted that English web-pages unde Granma were "under construction", while I could find more of the Spanish. The top page for some score of articles with connection to the 2008 election seemed to be this. If you add /1xx.html, where 1xx is a number between 101 and approximately 120, I think that you'll find a bunch of Granma articles about that election. I've not succeeded to find the 2013 election information (yet), though. However, the Spanish parliament webpage, http://www.parlamentocubano.cu, indeed also seems to be "under reconstruction", whence this won't help for the latest (eighth) parliament. JoergenB (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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