Talk:Congregation Emanu-El of New York

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photographs requested (unsigned and undated comment; pre-January 2015}}[edit]

There really should be a photograph or two to go with this article. At a minimum there should be a photograph of the building's exterior; a photo of the sanctuary would be appropriate as well.

mixed seating (unsigned and undated comment; pre-January 2015}}[edit]

"...mixed seating was adopted to further gender equality" This is an obvious anachronism. Gender equality in 1845? If this can be supported by contemporary documentation, I would have to retract. But it would be highly remarkable.

largest synagogue in the world[edit]

(this conversttion is cut and pasted form a talk page.

  • First, let me say in all sincerity that I truly, truly do not mean to be oppositional, ornery or in any other way uncongenial. The thing is, a lot of what is written about synagogues is simply not accurate. Emanuel, for example, never seated as many people as Dohaney Street, which was sammer than Orienenburgstrasse. But these were the great cathedral synagogues. More to the point, most people who publish articles on synagogues (i.e. Sacred places) are completely unaware of the scale fo the great Hasidic synagogues? Have you seen the new Ger synagogue in Jerusalem? It seats over 8,000. Belz Jerusalem is almost as big. I would like to find a good source on the size of the huge Satmer synagogues in Williamsburg and New Square. Perhaps you could drop in for mincha one day and write them up. To help clear these claims up, I improved the "biggest" section at synagogue. And because there were similar claims about the oldest, I worked on that , too. And added a page Oldest synagogues in the United States because a lot of synagogue web sites and wikipedia pages were making sincere but inaccurate claims about that, too. I do hope we can work together on this.Elan26 (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26
I do hope you know more about chasidim than I do and can help out on the size issue. I just went to look and ina quick search cannot find a source for the Ger synagogue in Jerusalem. the Belz you cannot miss , you see it on the left on the drive into the city form the coast. but Ger? Satmer?these need sources. Architectural historians do not wirte about hasidim.Elan26 (talk) 14:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26
Claims of "oldest" "largest" etc. are always problematic. For largest is it by seating, building size, membership, regular attendance? I added a specific reference on the Temple Emanu-El article with a citation to clarify the claims for this particular synagogue. Then I went back and added a qualifier since you raise important points about some of the newer Hasidic synagogues. I don't much about Hasidic synagogues so I can't verify any claims. Also, I like your 1st pass at the Oldest Synagogues articles. Very nice work. JerseyRabbi (talk) 14:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I still have my doubts about your wording. Even in terms of cubic or square feet (or meters) I have a hard time believing tht it is larger than the garguantual Belz Jerusalem. I have been in them both, and cannot imagine that Emanuel can be larger by any measure.Elan26 (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26
I guess in true Wikipedia fashion, find a source that verifies that Belz is larger (I did some googling and found very varied info - unclear what someone means by "largest" in most citations - seems to be seating). Until then, the sources and general consensus is the Emanu-El is the biggest. I am sure someone will build a bigger synagogue at some point - when they do, we can edit the article. And the current wording says, "often referred to as..." which removes that stamp of absolute and even veracity - something can be referred to as the biggest synagogue when it is not the biggest synagogue at all. So even if Belz is bigger, Emanu-El is still "often referred to as" the biggest. I don't think this is a particularly big deal either way. I have no attachment to Emanu-El being the largest. JerseyRabbi (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
  • As I see it, the problem here is with outdated sources. Emanuel has long been called the largest synagogue in the worod, and may at one time have been the largest synagogue in the World, by cubic footage. Although Dohány Street Synagogue has more seats and the ddestroyed Oranienburger Straße Synagogue was larger than Dohany. The problem is that the people writing about the great cathedral synagogues appear to be unaware of the scale of the largest Hasidic synagogues. And the people building the really big Hasidic synagogues do not relate to a world that published articles about synagogue architecture. Nevertheless, the Belz Great Synagogue is conspicuously larger than Emanuel.Elan26 (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26


I took two photos today of the synagogue. [1] [2] One of them includes a photo from about the same angle as the one obscured by the tree, but there is some dude looking at my camera. If they're not good enough for cropping, I can go out and take another few later, it's a short distance away. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 05:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Original synagogue[edit]

It would be great to see pictures of the original synagogue designed by the archtiect noted in the article and Henry Fernbach. images Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)