|WikiProject Computing / Software||(Rated C-class, Mid-importance)|
- 1 Corel R.A.V.E.- Should It Be Added Here?
- 2 Corel Draw - Graphics Suit Submergence here.
- 3 CorelDRAW versus Illustrator
- 4 Screenshot? XP or Vista?
- 5 Corel Graphics Suite here?
- 6 Vendor lock-in?
- 7 Read / Write between the versions
- 8 Proofread
- 9 How does it pronounce?
- 10 History
- 11 X6
- 12 CorelDRAW X7-related changes
- 13 Bundlled applications
- 14 Deleted promotional content
Corel R.A.V.E.- Should It Be Added Here?
Corel R.A.V.E. (Real Animated Vector Effects) is the vector-based animation application which comes bundled as part of the CorelDRAW Graphics Suite (starting in version 10). It is capable of creating interactive object-based animations and movies for the Web. The movies can be exported as Macromedia Flash (SWF), GIF animations, AVI movies for Windows, and QuickTime formats. Corel R.A.V.E., one of the three primary applications in the CorelDraw 10 Graphics Suite, is not sold on its own. As an added value to the popular drawing program, R.A.V.E. (Real Animated Vector Effects) lets users dabble with SWF output, but its limited support of interactive elements makes it unsuitable for serious Flash developers.R.A.V.E.'s best features come from CorelDraw, and its drawing and layout tools are extremely powerful. In addition to geometric shapes, including perfect polygons, it has free-form drawing and Bezier editing tools. You can create visually complex artwork, such as soft drop-shadows, contoured edges, and gradient transparencies, with interactive formatting tools simply by dragging the appropriate tool to an object. And functions such as Group, Combine, and Intersect create custom vector outlines. To build animations in R.A.V.E., you sequence objects and insert keyframes on a timeline. Many of the program's effects and high-end illustration functions can be animated (you can change the angle of a drop shadow to simulate the sun's movement, for example). Other sophisticated effects include animating a blend to transform one object into another and animating a clipping path.As movies increase in complexity, R.A.V.E. begins to show shortcomings. For example, synchronizing animation effects across multiple elements is difficult, because there is no direct way to copy keyframe values from one object to another. And though the timeline lets you organize a complex composition with layers, you can't use it to manage a lengthy movie with scenes. In addition, there are very few ways to build interactivity into a R.A.V.E. movie. The rollover effects are excellent; a special editing window lets you change—and even animate—the up, over, and down states for a button. But you can assign only one of two actions to a button: Either play a sound or go to a URL.
R.A.V.E. does not give you the ability to include navigation controls (such as Go to frame) or cuing mechanisms (such as Play audio) in your movie. This limitation is especially problematic for audio elements. Synchronizing a sound track to a movie is difficult without commands to start or stop audio playback. The R.A.V.E. manual suggests stretching or shortening the audio duration to match movie length, but this distorts the pitch, which can produce ridiculous results. R.A.V.E. imports a wide variety of file formats, letting you incorporate just about any raster or vector image into an animation. We also like the export options, which include video formats such as AVI and MOV. When generating an SWF file, R.A.V.E. lets you set the JPEG compression level for raster images, prevent the file from being edited, and generate an HTML page that references the Flash movie. Before exporting, R.A.V.E. presents you with a list of potential problems. Most frequently, vector objects will be rasterized, because Corel's unique special effects are not supported by SWF. This can increase file size a little or a lot, depending on whether the effect has been animated. In our testing, R.A.V.E. had trouble converting its complex internal shapes into the simpler curves Flash requires. For example, the clipping path of a rotated bitmap displayed incorrectly in the final SWF file.(please feel free to use this after suitable edits.)--asydwaters 05:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC) ÚÓ[]
Corel Draw - Graphics Suit Submergence here.
Yes.I think with the version 10 onwards Corel has been realeasing all its Draw suites as Graphic Suites consisting of Corel Draw,Corel Photopaint and R.A.V.E.--asydwaters 14:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- In my opinion Corel Draw is quite a useful tool as its application and user base in DTP is quite large. --asydwaters 14:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I am not familiar with the context in which "Submergence" defines an application suite, but at Corel's own website, Corel 3.0 is accredited as being the first "Suite", as PhotoPaint was included with Draw. By version 5.1, a type management application had been added to the basic suite and several plug-ins were included on the program CD. Pixelkatt (talk) 07:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
CorelDRAW versus Illustrator
Is there any data available on the popularity of the two applications? Online, it seems like Illustrator vastly dominates, but in the traditional print world, CorelDRAW seems to still have a good handle. I used it previously at a company that did a lot of CNC work... QuinnHK 21:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'd like to know this, also. I cannot understand the general hype over illustrator. My company has just moved me from corel draw x3 to illustrator cs3 (because it is a more of an industry standard) and I feel like I've been kicked back into last century. Corel was crisp, flexible, fast and had far superior control over illustrator as well as having many more useful and time-saving features. I can't understand why Illustrator is still the 'standard' tool when it is 3 times the price and 1/10th as useful as corel draw. Lets move forward from the whole "graphic designer = MAC + photoshop +illustrator" thing...
If you use a Mac there's only one software, Illustrator, but if you use a PC the best software is CorelDRAW. More than 70,000.000 of sales of Corel can confirm it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Einstein02 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Screenshot? XP or Vista?
Looks like the sreenshot of coreldraw was running on windows vista, although it says its running in WinXP. The screenshot filename even has the word vista in it. Please somebody confirm this, becuase i cant although i think i was taken in WinVista... Djsonik 19:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was taken in XP. Confirmed by looking at window frame. — Alex (T|C|E) 03:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Corel Graphics Suite here?
Is it logical on your standpoint that CorelGraphics Suite is a paragraph of the CorelDRAW article? I think it makes no sense and it should be the contrary. Would you agree to create a page for Corelgraphics suite and leave here just the info striclty related to CorelDRAW?Luca Mauri 16:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
hi,i am from amritsar.I have just started learning CORELDRAW i found it really very interesting and useful too.THANKS
From what I gather, the CorelDraw .cdr file format is very complex and very closely guarded. There appear to be no 3rd party utilities, tools, image viewers that can open these files (the only exception I found is Adobe Illustrator but it often messes up the picture). Is it just me or is CorelDraw extremely aggressive in attempting to lock in users to their product? By comparison, for example Adobe and Microsoft file formats CAN be opened by several 3rd party applications! If so, I think this should be added to the article. Can someone confirm? 126.96.36.199 (talk) 16:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I believe that CorelDRAW, like its competitors, does allow you to import/export to various (vector/other) file exchange formats, which can be read by many programs. This reduces vendor lock-in. A paragraph about this should be added. Exporting to another format must remove certain Corel-specific features of the file, reducing future ability to edit those features. This should be detailed in the paragraph. A table would be a nice way to show this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 16:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Uniconvertor (http://sk1project.org/modules.php?name=Products&product=uniconvertor) can import Corel .cdr files. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Read / Write between the versions
The "Read / Write between the versions" table is a useful reference, but it stops at version 9. The rest of the article covers four more versions: 10, 11, 12, and X3. This table should be extended up to the current version. (I do not have the necessary information to do so myself.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- One thing it might be useful to mention is compatibility of various versions with OS (where known). I used to have Corel Draw 4 (on a CD I got free with a printer cartridge) but found that it won't even install on Windows 98; I currently have CD7 (the light edition comprising only CD and CPP), and it won't run on Vista (haven't tried it on XP yet). -- 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I don't have time to read the whole thing right now, but I did notice this: "...a serious illustration program capable to use system-installed outline fonts..."
"Capable to use" should be "capable of using".
- Small corrections like grammar and spelling don't need to be mentioned here - you can go ahead and fix them if you see any. --dmkrantz 20:49, 4 February 2008 (CST)
How does it pronounce?
- Probably both – depending on the language it is used in. --ProloSozz (talk) 14:39, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, there was an edition of CorelDraw that ran on MS-DOS with a Corel-supplied runtime version of Windows (Windows 1.0). This setup required at least a Hercules type video card. Did anyone else use this early version of CorelDraw? If so, can we add it to the history? Santamoly (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I worked at Corel during the initial development, beta testing and release of Corel Draw, and there was not a version that didn't rely on having a copy of Windows.
You may have some recollections of what Corel was doing before CorelDraw. They sold turnkey desktop publishing systems bundled with Ventura Publisher, which came with a runtime version of GEM. This was when Ventura was independant of Corel. Part of the bundle was a set of Corel created Type effects tools, can't remember the name. You would type what you wanted and the type of effect and it would create a postcript file, which you could then import into Ventura and paste as a graphic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I have here this from this book: Rimmer, Steve (1990). Mastering Corel Draw! ("Through version 1.1"). San Francisco, Paris, Düsseldorf, Soest: Sybex. p. 353. ISBN 0-89588-685-5.
Applications such as Corel Draw are written with the assumption that Windows will in place before you run the application.--L.Willms (talk) 17:29, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not native English, please use simpler language. I don't understand what you mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 01:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC) hi hi hi hi hib ih hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 16:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
RE: A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. Please kindly clarify what you mean by providing arguments and examples from the article. Please provide examples why you think that the text that was added appears biased and not neutral.
RE: This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Could you please clarify what you mean by providing arguments and concrete examples from the article, so people know what to improve. Providing detailed and accurate information on a topic doesn't mean that the information is an advertisement.
RE: Features by version section > New Features in X7 (last row in table) Quote from the Wikipedia Dispute resolution guidelines: "When you find a passage in an article that is biased or inaccurate, improve it if you can; don't delete salvageable text. For example, if an article appears biased, add balancing material or make the wording more neutral." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution) The text that I added to the article was deleted with the argument that the text was copied and pasted from the press release document. Moreover, the text added by another contributor (i.e., the list of new features for X6) was deleted. That text must have been in the article for at least 2 years and I followed its logic when I added the information about the new features in X7. I admit that the text that I added was based on the press release document, but the text contained a list of new features, so I didn't think it was appropriate to paraphrase or modify the list. Instead of deleting the text, the editor could have suggested that I add a citation (as per the Wikipedia Citing sources guidelines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources: "Citations are used to identify the reliable sources on which an article is based." )
RE: External links section Three of the links that I added in the External links section were removed. I explained my rationale behind including the links to different sources of information about CorelDRAW. Here's the explanation once again: The article on CorelDRAW is quite old and needs to be updated. In the meantime, the least that we can do for people out there who would like to learn more about CorelDRAW is to point them to the most up-to-date version of the product documentation, which will give them an idea of all product features. I provided links to three resources, so people can decide what resource they would like to use: PDF, HTML, full manual, or quick start guide. Some people may prefer to look at the quick start guide, some people may prefer the HTML-based help, some people may decide to print out the PDF and read it when they are offline. I see a lot of value to provide the links in one place. I would greatly appreciate if you could revert the changes. If you still think that providing three links is too much, I'd like to provide at least one.
Please respond. I kindly ask you to reconsider putting back at least one of the links. Please provide arguments why you wouldn't do that. 'Excessive links to the same domain' is not an argument if the links add value to an article.
- I don't think marketers, advertisers, and other COI editors have a right to insist that Wikipedia's volunteers drop what they are doing and spend large amounts of time debating obviously tendentious edits. It isn't as if someone libeled your company and now you're here asking us to fix the problem. This is simply using Wikipedia as a directory of Corel links, and a repository for copy-pasted adverting, or close paraphrasing of advertising copy to skirt copyright. I provided you with links to Wikipedia's policies related to these issues, and I provided you with links to example Featured Articles of comparable software topics that can guide you on what an article should look like. I think that is sufficient.
Few COI editors are capable of overcoming their bias and rewriting an article to be neutral -- "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." So instead it has to be left with maintenance tags until a neutral volunteer has time to come along and clean it up. Perhaps someone has time now, but if not, it will have to wait. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I would really like to have information on the new features of X6 and X7, but the Corel press releases which had been there do really not provide concrete information, only sales talk. It is a pity. BTW, I am using CorelDraw since version 2; yesterday I checked and could still find the six 5¼ inch floppy disks needed to install the program. I'm now on X6. --L.Willms (talk) 14:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- RE: "..,I would really like to have information on the new features of X6 and X7..." Here's a link to the product documentation that describes the new features in X7 and links to procedures: http://product.corel.com/help/CorelDRAW/540229932/Main/EN/Documentation/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=CorelDRAW-What-is-new-in-CDGSX7.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 17:04, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Instead of a list of additionally bundled applications of the current version, it might be more useful, to have a table of those applications, indicating in which versions of CorelDraw there were included.This is orthogonal to the table of CorelDraw versions, which has the column of features of each version. --L.Willms (talk) 23:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Deleted promotional content
I just deleted promotional content from this article. Per WP:NOTADVERTISING, "Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources..." The content I removed either was not referenced or was referenced to self-published advertising produced by the seller of this product.
I have no objection to information being added which sources this content to some third-party review, but for as long as only advertising can be cited, this content should not be in this article. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:58, 25 November 2014 (UTC)