Talk:Crowdsourcing

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Addition To Modern Methods[edit]

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Firstly, I'm new to Wikipedia, so please forgive any newbie behavior. Secondly, I want to cite my employer's blog, where we publish research and best practices from our crowdsourcing business. I have read Wikipedia:Blogs_as_sources and I believe that our company is a source of authority in crowdsourcing and that I am an expert. But I want to call that out from the beginning.

I would like to add a paragraph to the bottom of the Crowdsourcing#Modern_methods section. It could also go into Crowdsourcing#Crowdvoting but it is related to modern methods, not examples. My addition:

Crowdsourcing often allows participants to rank each other's contributions, e.g. in answer to the question "What is one thing we can do to make Acme a great company?".  One common method for ranking is "like" counting, where the contribution with the most likes ranks first.  This method is simple and easy to understand, but it privileges early contributions, which have more time to accumulate likes.  In recent years several crowdsourcing companies have begun to use pairwise comparisons, backed by ranking algorithms such as Elo. Ranking algorithms do not penalize late contributions. They also produce results faster. Elo, for example, is at least 10 times faster than manual stack ranking. REF  One drawback, however, is that ranking algorithms are more difficult to understand than like counting.

Many thanks, TDQuigley (talk) 17:50, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

The main concern I have with the content are the advert mentions and referencing source. Comments "backed by ranking algorithms such as Elo" can be simplified to "backed by ranking algorithms"; and "Elo, for example ..." could be more generically stated in terms of ranking algorithm performance improvement over manual methods. Lastly, the only source provided is a primary source; per WP:RS, we should instead use an industry white paper, journal, news article, or similar third-party reliable sources. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 23:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I can take out the specific reference to Elo, and just mention "ranking algorithms." In other words, your edit is fine. On the reference, I have not been able to find another source that specifically measures the time savings of using ranking algorithms. That, I think, is the essential point. While our blog is not an industry white paper, journal, or news article, it's purpose is to publicly share data and methods from our work. That page, in particular, does not fall into the category "Individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services."; per Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources#Vendor_and_e-commerce_sources. So, taking your edit and keeping the reference, we'd have this:

Crowdsourcing often allows participants to rank each other's contributions, e.g. in answer to the question "What is one thing we can do to make Acme a great company?"  One common method for ranking is "like" counting, where the contribution with the most likes ranks first.  This method is simple and easy to understand, but it privileges early contributions, which have more time to accumulate likes.  In recent years several crowdsourcing companies have begun to use pairwise comparisons, backed by ranking algorithms. Ranking algorithms do not penalize late contributions. They also produce results faster.  Ranking algorithms have proven to be at least 10 times faster than manual stack ranking.[1]  One drawback, however, is that ranking algorithms are more difficult to understand than like counting.

TDQuigley (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed reply (travelling with limited online time, not enough to focus on the above wording until now). The modified version reads with a more neutral point of view. If that's the only available ref, then we will need to use it until a source that better meets Wikipedia's guidance of using a 3rd party reliable source becomes available. Before I left to travel, I had also requested on the talk page of two related Wikiprojects that some of their they comment here - but either members of those projects missed the request, are busy elsewhere, and simply have no opinion on this topic. Feel free to add the revised wording to the article; or, if you prefer, I can add it and convert the ref to using a standard {{cite web}} template. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 22:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your time. I used {{cite web}} and added the paragraph. TDQuigley (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Crowdsourcing Creative Work[edit]

The subsection "Crowdsourcing creative work" starts with "Main article: Crowdsourcing creative work" but that just redirects back to (the top of) this page. --Antistone (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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  1. ^ thevisionlab.com, "Crowdvoting: How Elo Limits Disruption", May 25th, 2017