Talk:Cult of personality

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I feel that if he's going to be in here there need to be information on how he as a cult of personality like following

Third person usage[edit]

Shouldn't there be a section about the use of other people's image in order to further one's ownself? For example, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez frequently relates his policies and achievements to Simon Bolivar and promotes himself as the modern successor to Bolivar. The same is true for Fidel Castro using the image and personality of Che Guevarra.

FERDINAND MARCOS TOTALITARIAN?[edit]

WHAT ABOUT THE CURRENT PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT! WHY SHE DID NOT QUALIFY?

Impartial Definition[edit]

it is beholden upon us as a 'hive mind' to establish and uphold an unbiased and criterion based definition of what we are talking about. what is a cult of personality in modern terms? the god-king criterion may no longer apply as we no longer have kings/queens as such, with the notable exceptions of Thailand, arabia, and Jordan. i would suggest a mark of indisputable leader, note i did not say undisputed. the former requires unquestioning faith, the later requires only a state of being unchallenged. nor do i claim the terms to be mutually exclusive.

our article begins stating "A cult of personality arises when a country's leader uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise." how do we define "uses"? how do we define "mass media? i should think that 'achieves goals through' would work for our use of "uses". mass media can no longer be limited to monopolizing the fine arts. the free press is the largest mass media entity to date (the internet is second at best, for now). notice i said free press. the checks and balances to a free press must include extra national sources. e.g. ny times -> berliner zeitung. where would we be today if international policy had been based on pravda? (not to say it was not based upon disbelief of pravda). we must also make distinctions between person and personality. a person is a physical entity. a personality is a power of presence. whether or not the person is innocent of his/her image (see Washington) is of great importance. posthumous grandeur is to be expected as we inoften speak ill of the dead unnecessarily. i think we should limit our definition to persons living while their cult is in bloom (as apposed to Reagan). is the person using his/her personality to achieve goals? we could argue that anyone who did not would be mad. i would say they are merely humble. we must also consider the importance of pretension. did stalin have someone make up grandly named titles and honours and award them to him? did saddam hussein al-tekriti liken himself to Nebuchadnezzar? most historians would agree the answer is yes.

karl marx himself established a criterion with his antipathy toward "everything making for superstitious worship of authority". superstitious meaning: believing in, full of, or influenced by any blindly accepted belief or notion. when in the course of human events a community agrees to follow a HUMAN BEING without question or fail we call this community a cult, and rightly so. Dr. Clayton Forrestor (talk)

Where are CoPs most common?[edit]

Generally, personality cults are most common in regimes with totalitarian systems of government

This is the common perception, but how accurate is it really? It would be nice if we could cite a research paper that examines all of history with a clear definition of what a cult of personality actually is.Kurzon (talk)