Talk:Culture in post-communist Poland

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Did you know[edit]

  • ... that Culture in modern Poland is the only article in English Wikipedia with the title beginning as Culture in modern ( ... da, da, da)? That's because of what "modern" means in English, in relation to "culture", as oppose to what it sounds like to an unsuspecting ear. Modern means "belonging to the modern era; since the Middle Ages; "modern art"; "modern furniture"; "modern history"; "totem poles are modern rather than prehistoric"... (ARDictionary). Any thoughts? Poeticbent talk 16:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Your feedback requested![edit]

I'm not sure how to proceed. The article was created in March 2007‎ as a split from "History of Poland (1945–1989)" after a brief discussion which is now at Talk:History of Poland (1945–1989)/Archive 2#Split. The split was meant to help preserve that other article's FA-Class ... it was a half-measure that turned out as permanent. This article is supposed to describe Polish culture after the fall of communism, but it was abandoned in August 2008 after some hit-and-miss pasteup jobs (Frédéric Chopin, Veit Stoss, etc). I did a Google search and here's what I found out.

  • "The role of culture in post-communist Poland has been shaped by a sharp polarization of wealth within Polish society." [1]
  • "national culture in post-communist Poland [...] has been largely dominated by the post-Communist Left." [2]
  • "Young elites and the civic culture in post-communist Poland [...] supporting democratic policies and practices beyond what might have been expected after authoritarian rule..." [3]
  • "a democratic and legal culture in post-communist Poland [...] is rather fragile as far as democratic institutional infrastructure..." [4]
  • "in the shaping of institutions, society and culture in post-communist Poland [...] the role of advertising [is noted]. [5]
  • "Physical culture in post-communist Poland" ... also mentioned, but not much else there actually (at a quick glance). I think the main challenge is that culture in post-communist Poland is no longer a part of its past history, but rather about its current dynamic state of development. Therefore, the article would require a different approach from the others. Poeticbent talk 06:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
My problem with the term "post-communist Poland" is that I don't feel it's neutral to describe modern Poland primarily as "post-communist". This term, to me, is somewhat derogatory. How about Culture in Poland (1989–present), in line with History of Poland (1989–present)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
You're correct about the phrase "post-communist" having political connotations; that's what the Google search would indicate. – The only relevant theme I found is at the History of Russian culture with an unwritten (flagged) section "Post-Soviet period (1991-present)". The problem is that there are no such articles in Wikipedia about culture anywhere in the world narrowed down to post-Soviet period. Such articles would always be political in scope because the year 1989 was about politics, not about culture. No wonder, nobody wants to touch that subject five years after the expansion was requested there in June 2008 ... and here in August 2008. I'm afraid that such expansion would always be lacking behind the potential of Culture in any given country of any given period, because there are no scientific overviews available yet. By splitting-off Polish culture after 1989 from Polish culture in general ... you have invariably politicized it. I have nothing against moving the article to another name if it was worth our time. Poeticbent talk 17:41, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

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